Auto fill likes to put a space after the name that often will make these forms freak out.
Not always. My mortgage company uses a software where it treats the password as invalid if it’s autofilled. I have to copy and paste the password into the box to remove the error.
Why people and companies need to make things purposefully difficult is beyond me. This shit is decades old and solved. Yet, they’re still constantly broken.
What usually works is adding a character at the end of the autofilled password and then removing it
My old bank would not allow pasted passwords, nor autofill. For a while PayPal was the same way.
Many password managers have a function where they can fill the password by sending key presses for troublesome sites like that.
https://github.com/marcos10pc/dont-f--with-paste-bookmark
Don’t fuck with paste - a bookmarklet for those occasions.
Security theater.
“Look, boss, i made thing more secure!”From my experience, I think this also happens because of badly written code, where it tries to detect user input to do validation, but it handles events incorrectly and sees autofill as invalid.
I found that a lot of banks reject it unless both of the fields have been active inputs.
So do the auto fill, then click each field so it thinks they were both used, then click login.
Dumb, but two of my financial institutions require it.
Spaces are valid within names.
Are they valid after names? I mean I suppose they could be, but how could you ever, and I mean ever, write out the name in that case?
No but the software should just remove excess whitespace instead of complaining
thing.trim()
11 i thought all alphabets have been encoded in Unicode?
15 Murica and Brazil have no rules whatsoever so i guess it can happen.some people don’t even have a native writing system so i guess their name is not canonically mapped in unicode characters either. every attempt to write it down is just an approximation.
Who are you to judge that my name isn’t valid? I can be " Bart 2" if I want to be.
Does your name include the quotes? >.>
only one of them obviously
Only the last one
what if my name has a space at the end though?
Or this https://youtu.be/nq-dchJPXGA
Also, happy cake day!
Couldn’t you just make it so the text box doesn’t accept spaces to prevent that? Why allow a character to be input that makes the field invalid?
Yeah, that’s also a bad idea, there’s plenty of (mostly none-western) forenames that contain spaces, and plenty of surnames that contain spaces all over the world (Charles de Gaul, Guy Manuel de Hommen-baron)
All they really need to do is to onSubmit do a .trim() to the name
Because even if a space at the end of the name should be considered invalid, people can have names with spaces inside.
This is true. I know someone with a legal first name that’s two words. He’s a kid I work with. His parents made a point that his name isn’t one or the other, it’s both, and we are to address him as such.
To my understanding (as a non-tech person who consumes tech-related media), name fields are commonly culturally biased. Usually it impacts last names, which can vary in size and layout across the world, sometimes including hyphens (which some systems don’t like either.) Super short or long names also run into problems. Not everyone has one first name, one middle name, and one last name, but a lot of systems aren’t designed to handle that kind of variation.
There’s a lot with “name must be 3 or more characters” for example
Nah, backend is hard, and they only know JS.
As a primarily backend engineer, I think the opposite here. The backend makes sense, JS is just a nightmare.
From the typical web developer’ view of course. They don’t even know the
<form><input type="submit">thing anymore nowadays, neither the people who developed their framework. Can’t apply for a job, because the js-form has a bug!
Yea, that’s not a real name. You need to put in a real name, like Swaglynn.
My mother-in-law worked at a preschool, and there was actually a little girl named Sexianna.
Ok, that’s straight up child abuse.
Absolutely. I probably wouldn’t believe her, but my wife confirmed it. She used to go in to help out. The little girl also had a brother named Sir King.
I don’t know what the problem is for this person, but my name is Christopher. Super white, Christian, and “normal”. My bank thinks my name is Christophe because apparently 10 characters is enough for the first name column.
Thank Christ the name limit is not 6.
ah yes, the famous 2-syllabe american names. ever been to italy?
It’s also fun buying tickets from the Belgian airline, when they tell me that my family name contains illegal characters. Really? Tell me they’re invalid or better yet unacceptable, but not that.
Programmers making ui/ux decisions haha. You’ll pry ‘undefined’ from my cold, dead hands
User first name ‘Kristen’ already taken.
Invalid password. Already in use by Dicska.
Ok “Kristen” if that is even your name 🙄
Well done, web form. One less of these damn fakers to wade through. KRISTEN. 👏 ISN’T. 👏 A NAME. 👏
I’d try replacing letters with homoglyphs. Doubt it would work, but not so much that I didn’t think it was worth a try.
I mean, first I’d check to make sure I hadn’t added any leading/trailing spaces. There does appear to be a lot of space before the K. Might technically be why it isn’t working.
Not that the site doesn’t still have serious dumb issues even if that is the issue. But yeah.
Welcome to my world, where a first name with two words cannot exist, and every single credit card I own has a different name printed on them.
Nothing on that list would have saved Mr.& Mrs. Null from their constant hassle with systems.
So many systems just cannot comprehend that names change. Or they make name changes weirdly inconvenient (if I can’t just email the paperwork it’s too inconvenient). It’s not that big of a problem but it is a random pain in the ass every once in a while
This is the only reason I didn’t change my name when I got married. (I’m a guy, but her last name is much better than mine)
Yeah that’s fair. I think they’re better about marriage based name changes (social security absolutely is). I’m just glad I didn’t try on multiple names before picking one while transitioning.
Ooh, there’s dozens of us!
I’m a guy who did change his last name to hers. I regret everything years later still (paperwork wise, marriage and name wise no regrets)
The one thing that I mildly object to on that list is number 11 (Unicode). Since we are taking about software, it’s basically equivalent to number 40 (having a name at all).
People’s names do not contain numbers.
There are really names with numbers? (others than Roman numerals)
romanized arabic uses numbers as certain letters iirc
yep, for example ع is transcribed as 3
There’s a lot of whitespace before the name. Any chance they hit the space bar before talking the screen shot?
Pkhrighstehn
Nothing new to some folks out there.
Aren’t names in credit cards all capitalized? Maybe worth trying KRISTEN instead of Kristen.
It’s my strawman, I’m making a special appearance in this admiralty court as the settler and natural person. Also, I’m traveling.
Oh shit I gave admiralty court tomorrow! I’m going to give a sovcit speech then instead of insisting the laws don’t apply, because I kind of live on the beach, they just only apply if it stays on theme. Community service? Not valid unless they specify ‘beach cleanup’ or ‘cleaning barnacles off of boats’. Jail? No. Has to be ship’s brig.
Do you think I can make the judge wear a captains hat and a sword instead of a robe and a hammer?
I watched a few performances of these people in court. It’s absolutely wild. Where do they get these ideas? Now I have this (likely unhealthy) desire to look at what these conversations look like. Do they have forums for these insane people?
same place as q-anon gets their ideas: from the dankest shitholes of the internet, festering with ‘patriots’ who dodge taxes and sovereign citizens who get medicaid and social security.
I love what the internet has given us, but often wonder if it was worth it or if there should have been some kind of test for basic logic people should demonstrate before being given unfettered access to the thing…
Don’t forget swabbing the decks and avasting ye scurvy seadogs.
Unfortunately judges can’t use any bladed weapons on account of being a variant of clerics
I never do that and it always works anyway.
But is your name KRISTEN?
No.
Fck Kristen! lol
🤷♂️
types in “a valid first name”
