Or you can get disappeared in an unmarked van by feds 123
The us has loads of political prisoners by the way, you really cannot speak your mind - unless of course you only do it in such a way that does not inconvenience the ruling class. Do anything that matters and you’ll get dragged off to your local City PD black site
Getting arrested might be lucky, you’ll probably just get killed or maybe tortured
Glad to know I don’t live in China though, where billionaires get the death penalty, millions are uplifted from poverty, the state invests in infrastructure and climate mitigation. Wouldn’t want to do that.
I don’t know why you neoliberal drones always bring this up as if this negates the fact that you’re just a dipshit NPC who just regurgitates whatever anti-China circlejerk you see on reddit. You don’t know shit about China and you should stop talking out of your ass.
Corruption was bad in the early 2000s, there was a push to fight corruption both because it’s inherently bad and because it was posing a national security risk (I know you liberal removed only read sources directly from the three letter agencies so you can look up their efforts to use bribes to get their informants moving up the ranks).
where I can be free to stand up against it.
lmao typical brainwashed liberal. You dipshits think standing around on street corners and waiting for the cops to run you over is “standing up against it”. The ruling elite in America will never listen to dumbasses like you and they will continue openly taking bribeslobbyist donations no matter how much you lick their boots.
They only get executed for it they are risking stability of the party
the point of politics is to achieve a stable consensus. that the chinese are able to do this kind of stuff publicly without political deadlock or fear of reprisal from one guy or another’s patronage network is proof that their consensus at least is strong. all elite politicking is bulldogs fighting under a rug, you should only start worrying after the bones stop flying out from underneath.
Do you feel that bank managers in your country do not take bribes? In the event that they do have any been executed? If the answer to both questions is no how are you executing your freedoms to stand up against corruption?
Why do you think western countries would allow movements who oppose them to overthrow them? That’s never been the case anywhere at any time. If communists started winning elections in a western country we’d immediately have soldiers turned on us, as has been the case every single time that’s happened. There has never been a single case of socialists democratically winning power and then the liberal state simply bows to the whims of the masses, except maybe Czechoslovakia.
Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile, Greece, Germany, Italy. It keeps happening. Socialists who seek power through the accepted western channels of liberal elections quickly find themselves on the receiving ends of coups, spies, secret police, assassinations, or coordinated capitalists who organize fascist goons to recapture the state.
What exactly are you free to stand against? You’re allowed to say words or post online and then do nothing else? Is that freedom to you?
Hi, I wanted to ask in good faith to get a better idea of your position. You can look at my comment history to see how I respond, I do my best to be considerate I think.
When you wrote that you didn’t know why the person who responded to you brought up the west, was that because it didn’t seem relevant or because it seemed that they were trying to muddy waters in a sense? Like you made your point, they kinda didn’t engage with it and brought up some ancillary issue when you wanted to focus on what you believed to be relevant? I hope I got some of it right, I’d appreciate any corrections.
I’ve heard about hexbear’s reputation, and it is kinda confirmed. I’ll probably block it entirely but not until I answer you because at least you seem in good faith. Responding to the others ain’t going achieve much it seems.
Yea I mean I know there is plenty of corruption in the west. How and to what extend, that is not what I was arguing. By mentioning that it diverts what is going on in China. Corruption is corruption no matter where it is happening. And of course there are different forms of corruption. Did I answer your question this way?
The reputation is dunking on bad takes sourced through an MSNBC interview with a former CIA operative who is an “expert” on China or something.
It’s shit like saying that you can freely protest against corruption in the West that is entirely laughable. The US government censured Tlaib this week you booger. Did you miss the mass arrests of Jewish voices for peace.
It’s true that since the market reforms, the party has willingly looked the other way when it comes to corruption (black cat, white cat). It’s pretty cynical to say that Xi’s anti-corruption campaign is only about staying in power though, but it was certainly a strategy that won him a lot of support among intra-party factions because it allowed them to oust blatant offenders of rival cliques.
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Not in China they don’t, because they get executed for it. China’s by far less corrupt than the west, in the West corruption is openly legal
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In China all protestors are lined up and flattened by a steamroller going really slow like in the first Austin Powers
in the us:
Yeah, like julian assange, edward snowden, chelsea manning, daniel hale…
Or you can get disappeared in an unmarked van by feds 1 2 3
The us has loads of political prisoners by the way, you really cannot speak your mind - unless of course you only do it in such a way that does not inconvenience the ruling class. Do anything that matters and you’ll get dragged off to your local City PD black site
Getting arrested might be lucky, you’ll probably just get killed or maybe tortured
Glad to know I don’t live in China though, where billionaires get the death penalty, millions are uplifted from poverty, the state invests in infrastructure and climate mitigation. Wouldn’t want to do that.
I don’t know why you neoliberal drones always bring this up as if this negates the fact that you’re just a dipshit NPC who just regurgitates whatever anti-China circlejerk you see on reddit. You don’t know shit about China and you should stop talking out of your ass.
Corruption was bad in the early 2000s, there was a push to fight corruption both because it’s inherently bad and because it was posing a national security risk (I know you liberal removed only read sources directly from the three letter agencies so you can look up their efforts to use bribes to get their informants moving up the ranks).
lmao typical brainwashed liberal. You dipshits think standing around on street corners and waiting for the cops to run you over is “standing up against it”. The ruling elite in America will never listen to dumbasses like you and they will continue openly taking
bribeslobbyist donations no matter how much you lick their boots.Talk of brainwashing and NPCs is antisocial and analytically counterproductive
https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/
A very harsh but succinct way to put it, I may adapt this for use in the future if you don’t mind…
the point of politics is to achieve a stable consensus. that the chinese are able to do this kind of stuff publicly without political deadlock or fear of reprisal from one guy or another’s patronage network is proof that their consensus at least is strong. all elite politicking is bulldogs fighting under a rug, you should only start worrying after the bones stop flying out from underneath.
I’m so happy you can live in a place where you can stand alone in a field protesting the demons while they harvest your soul. Such an amazing right!
Thank God you aren’t in a lawless hellhole like China.
the fuck are you on about?
Do you feel that bank managers in your country do not take bribes? In the event that they do have any been executed? If the answer to both questions is no how are you executing your freedoms to stand up against corruption?
no because in my country they aren’t legally refered to as bribes
Death to America
Have you?
Yes, I have.
Oh really? When and where and in what capacity? Do you speak Chinese?
*doesnt answer
how surprising.
He said he blocked the comm. lol
Why do you think western countries would allow movements who oppose them to overthrow them? That’s never been the case anywhere at any time. If communists started winning elections in a western country we’d immediately have soldiers turned on us, as has been the case every single time that’s happened. There has never been a single case of socialists democratically winning power and then the liberal state simply bows to the whims of the masses, except maybe Czechoslovakia.
Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile, Greece, Germany, Italy. It keeps happening. Socialists who seek power through the accepted western channels of liberal elections quickly find themselves on the receiving ends of coups, spies, secret police, assassinations, or coordinated capitalists who organize fascist goons to recapture the state.
What exactly are you free to stand against? You’re allowed to say words or post online and then do nothing else? Is that freedom to you?
I’m begging you to shut the fuck up please 😞
Hi, I wanted to ask in good faith to get a better idea of your position. You can look at my comment history to see how I respond, I do my best to be considerate I think.
When you wrote that you didn’t know why the person who responded to you brought up the west, was that because it didn’t seem relevant or because it seemed that they were trying to muddy waters in a sense? Like you made your point, they kinda didn’t engage with it and brought up some ancillary issue when you wanted to focus on what you believed to be relevant? I hope I got some of it right, I’d appreciate any corrections.
I’ve heard about hexbear’s reputation, and it is kinda confirmed. I’ll probably block it entirely but not until I answer you because at least you seem in good faith. Responding to the others ain’t going achieve much it seems.
Yea I mean I know there is plenty of corruption in the west. How and to what extend, that is not what I was arguing. By mentioning that it diverts what is going on in China. Corruption is corruption no matter where it is happening. And of course there are different forms of corruption. Did I answer your question this way?
Cringe shit.
The reputation is dunking on bad takes sourced through an MSNBC interview with a former CIA operative who is an “expert” on China or something.
It’s shit like saying that you can freely protest against corruption in the West that is entirely laughable. The US government censured Tlaib this week you booger. Did you miss the mass arrests of Jewish voices for peace.
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source: your ass.
It’s true that since the market reforms, the party has willingly looked the other way when it comes to corruption (black cat, white cat). It’s pretty cynical to say that Xi’s anti-corruption campaign is only about staying in power though, but it was certainly a strategy that won him a lot of support among intra-party factions because it allowed them to oust blatant offenders of rival cliques.