Here’s a question:

Do you want the Bears to go 4-3 the remainder of the year taking 1 of 2 from the Lions thus showing tangible improvement? The danger is Flus comes back

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Go 1-6 the rest of the year and have a new coaching staff with potentially Poles gone?

Pretty sure the majority pick the latter.

  • scal23@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    If I’m watching the Chicago Bears, I want them to win. I’m also not in the front office.

    Ryan Poles job is to look beyond wins and losses. Going 4-3 from here does not and should not automatically mean Eberflus stays.

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    10 months ago

    Poles can stay. I think he has done an above average job. The coaching staff should be gone though. There is zero evidence that they are any good. Are we gonna keep the same stiffs while a promising coach goes somewhere else when the Bears could have signed him? When the evidence is there, you act.

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    10 months ago

    We kept the last administration in place forever including 7 years for a GM who traded away 3 years of first round picks in that time.

    People get scarred by that dogshit

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    10 months ago

    C. Regardless of record. Poles Stays, Eberflus and Getsy gone. They need to be no where near next draft instituting their bad schemes.

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    10 months ago

    I think Harbaugh or Ben Johnson would be a better coach than Eberflus. I think Adam Peters would be a much better GM than Ryan Poles. If you think that makes me a “bad fan” IDGAF.

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    10 months ago

    I think that the majority of this season is on coaching, I’d rather see the coaching staff leave but keep the GM and QB in place.

    Poles IMO, hasn’t done anything that has hurt the future of this team and has been building an okay roster after 1 offseason after blowing the team up. The issue with firing the GM is that the new GM would have to spend half his time building his draft board and the other half coach hunting, putting the 2024 season on the back foot.

    For QB, we’d still need to draft one but I wouldn’t make him QB1 right away out of the draft.

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    10 months ago

    I’m thinking long term vs short term, doesn’t mean I’m not rooting for success.

    There’s no convincing me Eberflus/Getsy can have meaningful success. So why root for a result that keeps them around? This team isn’t making the playoffs this season, so yeah, I’d rather see a result where they get better draft stock and a new coaching staff.

    In regards to the other two, I actually am Pro-Poles. I think he’s built a better team than what he inherited, and he’s positioned us for a great offseason while doing so. Fields doesn’t look like the guy, but I’d much rather him prove me wrong than draft another QB.

    TL;DR: I want the coaches gone. I want Fields to take the next step. I still believe in Poles.

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    10 months ago

    I’m fairly confident this fanbase would rather see a revolving door of GMs, Coaches, and QBs than see success.

    That’s a bullshit statement. Why the fuck would any fan of this team actually want that? We’ve been forced to endure it because the Bears are an amateur-level organization.

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    10 months ago

    7-10 is not success and keeping this staff dooms us to never have a season above .500. If you think submediocrity is success then sure, I would rather see a revolving door

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    10 months ago

    I think you’re misplacing the blame in this. It’s not that we want to see a revolving door of coaches and GM’s, we’re just able to recognize how terribly ran this franchise has been for quite some time now. It’s not like the Bears have been mid the last few years with Flus, they’ve been BAD. Absolutely awful in a lot of areas Flus promised to work on.

    To answer you’re question, I don’t want option 1 or 2, I want a great HC that promotes a successful culture and competently runs their squad. We haven’t seen that in a long long time.

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    10 months ago

    I don’t want to go 4-3 because I know if we ever have the talent this coaching staff won’t maximize it.

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    10 months ago

    I think the fanbase only knows how to be angry. And “fire everybody” is something people say when frustrated. Personally I am not out yet on the coach, GM, or QB. Frankly there has been improvement. And this is what bottoming out looks like.

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    10 months ago

    The litmus test for me has changed given the prolonged mediocrity that we’ve experienced. Would I like to see success? Absolutely. But The team is consistently falling short in that regard, so in the interim I at least would like a front office, coaching staff, and players that were easy to get behind and demonstrated a degree of intelligence and leadership capability. Not even going to draw comparisons between this regime and previous cuz what’s done is done. Ryan poles? has made some good moves and made some bad moves, but generally speaking his accessibility to the media and transparency has been a massive plus in my opinion. I wouldn’t mind keeping him around necessarily. Eberflus? I think any other team would have fired him already. But he’s still here, and well at least he’s not parading around the sidelines with a stupid “BE YOU” play sheet and constructing an egomaniacal shrine in his mancave to his own self-perceived football genius. Of all the things Eberflus is lacking I don’t necessarily think humility is one of them. That’s also a plus. Fields? A ton of shoulda coulda woulda here but the kids demeanor, work ethic and all that other leader-y stuff is nice to see and makes it easy to want him to be successful, admittedly also making it supremely frustrating that he’s not. There’s plenty of other players on this team who I genuinely root for and want to see them do well. I don’t necessarily think hitting the reset button again is going to do much to get this franchise closer to be a winning football team. Don’t get me wrong I would love to have somebody with a proven track record of success as an NFL GM and/or head coach come in here and lead this team to the promised land but the problem is those guys usually already have jobs or don’t have any interest in coming here. Regardless this team is just never seem to be able to make that connection. The biggest question mark for me right now in this whole mess is Getsy. And my biggest concern with him is that he’s seeming more and more like another one of these guys that’s enamored with his precious scheme and tries to fit square pegs around holes in that regard. But even then I think if you can him, you’re starting all over from scratch with everything. It’s weird to think that somehow the most important coach in the building and the one around whom the future success of the franchise is based is not the head coach. That seems so typically Bears. I guess all this is to say I don’t hate anybody’s position in this organization enough to say yeah hit the reset button if there’s a chance they can build on something with what they’ve got.

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    10 months ago

    The latter.

    Now, a question for you: what do you think the chances are that Ryan Poles, Matt Eberflus and Justin Fields ever lead the Bears to an NFC Championship game, much less a Super Bowl, much less actually winning it?

    I, personally, want the Bears to get to a point where they can go into a game against Philadelphia/San Francisco/Kansas City/Cincinnati and be even odds, or even a favorite in the game. I don’t see our current GM/coach/QB combo ever getting us there. So what do we do? Just hold on to them and accept that our ceiling is maybe one day winning the NFC North and losing in the first or second round to a real contender?