• rabber@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    Staged event obviously. Your ear doesn’t just miraculously regrow, never mind in 3 days

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    The “Free World” is a propaganda term,[1][2] primarily used during the Second World War[3] and Cold War, to refer to the Allies, Western Bloc and aligned countries. - Wikipedia

    For those not familiar with the phrasing. Always feels like being teleported back to the mid 1900s.

    I will say it’s a solid propoganda term for regions in which many people feel like wage slaves and the antiestablishment fervor is at such a fever pitch that authoritarians are being voted in.

    The same region thats financed a genocide in Gaza and has a power center that has an immigration and customs enforcement akin to the gestapo is the free world. Hmm. Might be time to retire this descriptor guys.

  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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    The biggest reason I have my doubts it was staged is I don’t think Trump’s competent enough to stage an assassination attempt that well. His ear could plausibly have been grazed by a bullet enough to make it bleed like that, but not leave any scarring. His ear looks intact even right after it happened:

    If it was staged, it’s the most uncharacteristically competent thing he’s ever done.

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      I happened to see a photo of his right side the other day and noticed that there is a little nick in the outer part of his ear cartilage, right about where the darkest red part is on this photo. And there’s that photo of the bullet going past his head where he grabs his ear and there’s blood on his fingers. I’m guessing that the bullet was close enough that maybe the air around it caused a wound? But there’s no way a bullet full-on hit his ear.

      Regardless, I agree that it wasn’t staged. Just not as bad of a wound for him than they want us to believe (can’t say the same for the volunteer fireman, though…)

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          What a substantial and wel worded rebuttal. Regardless, what’s your take then: Oddly shaped ear? Inflammation?

          I’ll follow your initial post that he’s too incompetent to pull something like that off, but how much would he be running himself?

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      Ask yourself who could stage this and who would have the most to gain by doing and you will see what Isrealy going on behind the scenes. It was staged.

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    Here is what probably happened. Because this guy was a maga. That’s been established.

    Someone recruited him to fire a blank. They assured him he would just be arrested or maybe do a fake death and give him a new identity. Though they planned to kill him.

    They likely told him this would help secure trump the presidency.

    And it was honorable.

    They probably found him by profiling his social media activity.

    Weird how he didn’t have much to be found huh? Almost like someone high up wiped his record?

    This is what I think. This kid was told to fire a blank. Given a gun and the blank.

    Told Where to be. When to do it.

    And then killed so he could never talk.

    Which means. Trump killed him too. A long with all the other deaths on his hands.

    Eventually someone who knows, will snitch. No doubt some shady lawyer was involved somehow.

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      Nice foil hat, but the ear was barely scraped, not severed, and people behind Trump were critically injured or killed.

      Corey Comperatore, are you guys going to call him a crisis actor? This thread reads like an Alex Jones podcast.

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        Secret service could have shot him. There were people there with live rounds.

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      Baseless conspiracy is baseless.

      More than likely, this young man lapped up Trump’s violent rhetoric, then expirenced first-hand the damage his policies were doing. When you’ve been conditioned to think of political violence as the ultimate solution, and then suddenly realize that your “God-King” is a demented pedophile conman who fucked your whole town out of their money, rights and homes in order to enrich his pedophile billionaire buddies… Well, the rest is history. He took his shot.

      I think the guy was a young impressionable idiot, but at least he had some balls, which is more than you can say for most people.

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        It’s true that disillusioned fanatics often turn violent. I’m willing to entertain your theory.

        I still think the whole thing was staged.

        Even if the ear was only nicked, there would be clear scarring.

        But no scar. The flag being lowered for the photo op. How quickly the kid was killed yet no one spotted him setting up a rifle until he fired. But knew exactly where he was immediately after the shot was fired, and shot him.

        I mean people still aren’t even sure where the bullet that hit jfk came from.

        After all the stuff with Epstein files. Israel. The crypto scams. The inside trading. 34 convicted felonies.

        You really think he wouldn’t do what I proposed?

        He has no limits. He raped little girls. He bombed a girl’s school. He has openly admitted to vote manipulation in the election though many people from both sides deny it could have happened. He literally lies at a 10:1 ratio.

        Why would anyone think anything he says or does is true or honorable in any way. ?

        Fool you once shame on them. Fool you twice, shame on you.

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          Here’s the thing…

          If it was staged, there is no way in hell trump would have left the stage. Guy loves his theatrics.

          I don’t think he actually got clipped by a bullet. There is a huge number of things that can scratch your ear when you are tackled to the ground on top of broken glass.

          The simple solution is that TC tried and missed.

          The alternative is that trump was in on it, and managed to keep his mouth shut. And that he didn’t insist on grandstanding and bragging about being shot at during that very event. And the USSS was in on it and kept all their mouths shut. And there is a communication trail between the trump campaign and TC which no one has uncovered.

          Remember, these fucking idiots can’t stop quiet snitching on each other because they are all fucking stupid. There is no way in hell they could keep a conspiracy this complex under wraps.

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            The majority of Congress is 100% loyal to him.

            There is a huge conspiracy to protect the people in the Epstein files that’s been going on for decades.

            There are plenty of people who would set this up.

            Heritage foundation is one of them.

            The maga people are fanatics. They are 100% loyal. And he is known to surround himself with such people.

            If nothing else, such people like heritage foundation see him as a tool to be used. So their complicency is not based on their love of him but their need to keep him around to control.

            I agree that lots of things can cause body damage. Still no scar though. After all that blood.
            And the flag. The quick death of the shooter.

            It’s just too many sus things to excuse.

            His ratings jumped after this little stunt.

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              Again, I’m not saying they are beyond trying it. I am saying that they are too fucking incompetent to actually do it and not leak it everywhere.

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                Okay so now I can definitely see your point.

                They are incompetent as fuck.

                When people say “I don’t think he would do that”. I’m like. Yes he would. He’s a narcissist sociopath.

                But if you are saying. “Sure he might want to but their incompetence is very high”. Then I can agree that’s a strong counter argument.

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    We know he was a far right agitator who wanted for there to be a massive right wing backlash against the left if I remember correctly.

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      “I went forward in time…to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the assassination attempt.”

      “How many did you see?”

      “Fourteen million, six hundred and five.”

      “How many did he survive?”

      “One.”

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        They staged a nick of the ear, then the death of Corey Comperatore and the critical wounding or two others?

        The deceased victim was identified as Corey Comperatore, 50, of Sarver, PA. The second victim has been identified as 57-year-old David Dutch, of New Kensington, PA, who is currently listed in stable condition. The third victim was identified as 74-year-old James Copenhaver, of Moon Township, PA. He is also listed in stable condition.

        Now tell us idiots how blanks did this.

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          Did you know any of those people personally? Have you ever met them & their families & friends? Where are the interviews & sob stories from these people? There’s none because it never happened.

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        It was all coordinated and he has history of such things. With his TV show and WWE. It’s too obvious.

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    More like he almost doomed the free world and the economy. Imagine if Trump died and an actually competent fascist came in his place. This is the best realistic scenario for America; someone like Putin would already have his opposition in gulags.

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      True actually, the maga cult that justifies everything Trump does finally got pierced by Trump starting a war only he would be dumb enough to start.

      Not that the war was the problem, mainly just gas prices went up which is anti American or something.

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      This was prior to his reelection, so who would have taken the reins? Vance? Desantis? They wouldn’t have turned out the voters like Trump did, even if Fox and OAN and the rest of the propaganda machine worked overtime to harp on how dangerous the left is for assassinating their guy or whatever. Trump has a uniquely cultish charisma that Vance and any other likely replacement candidate simply didn’t.

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        A replacement candidate didn’t exist then, but one would quickly emerge from the general mass of American fascism if Trump disappeared. They wouldn’t make it in time for 2024, but they’d crush it in 2028.

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    beyond the moral problem of murder, the assassination, even if successful, would only radicalize people. its like the videogame dishonored where you can defeat the tyrannical government by killing everyone, but then you end up with the bad ending where another terrible leader takes over. but also fuck the good ending in dishonored… its such a pain to sneak around to avoid killing people.