• stickly@lemmy.world
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    Weird diagram. Why are we starting at 1619 in Virginia when it would be just as fair to say 1493 in Puerto Rico (or similar when you include Florida or parts annexed from Mexico). And the end of segregation is wrong as well.

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      While the Brits outlawed slavery around 1830s for themselves, they had no problem loading slaves onto their ships and smuggling them to the Americas for a good while after. Plus they openly supported the Confederacy throughout the Civil War to keep the cotton rolling in. And of course we don’t need to mention colonialism that lasted until after WW2 now, do we? Of course the French, Dutch, Spanish, and Germans also colonized every inch of some else’s dirt to exploit them back to the Stone Age. And there was little hesitation to kill any and all that objected the “civilizing” effect of European influence.

      And slavery is ongoing even as we speak in certain parts of this world. But we do nothing and care little about that. As long as they keep it on the down low we need not be overly concerned.

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    Not every white person had a house either, and if they didnt then their family ended up losing a lot of compound growth, and ended up poorer as they payed somebody elses mortgage. What really happened I think is the lack of class mobility due to the financialization of everything, due to unlimited money printing and corporate bailouts.

    The average mortgage was 7 years historically and somebody saving a ton could pay it off in under 5 years, instead of the massive 30 year loans backed by the govenment we have now. Its like as we got richer and more productive we simultaneously became poorer and can barely house ourselves, as food quality got cheaper with shrinkflation and industrialization.

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      I really don’t where this influx of mispelling misspelling paid as payed over the last few years has come from, but it seems to be becoming more and more common.

      For what it’s worth, “payed” is a very old nautical term that means to spread tar on the deck of a ship.

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        over the last few years

        There’s no way this is just in the last few years, unless you mean like 20-30 years or so (along with the rest of the common misspellings you can find on the internet versus edited printed material). Also the meaning isn’t just spreading a waterproof coating, but also to let out line or rope.

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        I really don’t where this influx of mispelling

        I really don’t either. And it’s misspelling. Cuz you know…

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          Hah. I looked at that word, then wrote it with a double s, looked at it again and it looked wrong, so I went back to one.

          But now that I see it posted, the single s looks very wrong indeed.

          D’oh.

          Also, any post on the internet about someone else’s spelling mistakes will inevitably contain at least one spelling error itself, so I’m just maintaining the universal rules ;)

          In your case, I suppose it’s “cuz”

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    Yeah, no. Segregation magically ending in 1954? The Civil Rights struggles of the 60s didn’t happen? Redlining and Ghettoizing of Black communities? Destruction of Black families by mass incarceration of Black males and forcing families to stay apart to collect benefits, while vilifying single Black mothers as “welfare queens”? We have never, ever been in the green.

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            bay area, california, and folk use religion as their segregator. if they want to be surrounded by all white people they pick a religion/cult that has only white people going to it. have their kids go to their youth group, do their polyarhythmiac jazz prom, go to their halloween harvest dinner/chili cookoff and kick all their bland white bean turkey chili bell peppers too spicy asses, sorry i had a point somewhere but i remembered some ptsfuckingd chili and that shit does things to you. like, i don’t think my great/grand/parents joined the cults they joined because they were racists, i think they joined because they were lonely and being racist was something people didn’t end relationships over. you end relationships over white grandma turkey chili that’s got no spice in it oh your god cassie. or your sister cassie’s god it doesn’t matter. drop an ancho and a bar of chocolate in it and pretend just don’t please gods please don’t enter it in the contest again i’m not tasting it if i’m a judge.

            don’t join cults kids, you might end up eating some nasty fucking ass chili do your worst hyphen clown asses

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          The further north you go the more segregated it gets and still is today. But we never think of the northern states as segregated.

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            As the old saying goes, “In the north, they don’t care how loud you get, so long as you don’t get too close. In the south, they don’t care how close you get so long as you aren’t loud.”

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              This is not true. Northern cities are still extremely segregated. We say it’s because of economics now, but it’s effectively segregation. The underlying causes of the economic disperity largely remain in place also.

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      while vilifying single Black mothers as “welfare queens”?

      You forgot the “best” part: poor people renting apartments end up subsidizing wealthier people living in single-family homes, because suburban sprawl doesn’t generate enough tax revenue per acre to fund the infrastructure and services it consumes. The white middle-class bigots doing the vilifying are, themselves, the real welfare queens!

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      There was also a tiny sliver of reconstruction for 12 years in there too. Then the killing sliver at the end of that.

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    There were news stories as recent as 2012 about schools in the south being segregated. There are still sundown towns. Segregation only ended on paper.

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      My ex’s family would talk about what they’d do to a black person if one ever stepped foot on their property. Within the last 10 years btw.

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        It seems like less steps: consolidate the whole racket, let the state enforce and pay for it, and let the enslavers continue to profit.

        This seems much easier and more reliable than the prior decentralized system of private enslavers.

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    The yellow should be orange and the green should be yellow and labeled “carcereal slavery”

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      I was going to comment something along these lines with the war on drugs, but legal slavery for imprisoned persons is a huge part of why the war on drugs was pursued and persists.

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    Primus~ “Welp, no more slaves unless they are serving time in prison. It’s a bummer.”

    Secundus~ “Well, let’s put them in prison.”

    Primus~ “BRILLIANT”

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    Is that green area supposed to represent the end of racism? All systems go?!?!

    Counter-productive lib bullshit.