• Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    … And importantly, US legal rulings currently state that you can be coerced by law enforcement / border agents to unlock your devices using biometrics (being a part of your body), but NOT coerced to reveal a PIN or password, as that is something you remember – no forced confessions or something like that.

    And if you have a device-wipe ‘duress’ PIN code, make sure you use it BEFORE being asked to unlock the device, or they’ll claim you erased evidence. Better to just not have ANY data you are concerned about on the device while crossing into any country – carry a blank device, and download it securely after entry.

    Never use fingerprint or face unlock on your phone if travelling to the US.

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    Facial recognition scans are so detailed that that data can be used to make highly realistic deepfakes. Deepfakes with higher resolution than an ordinary video recording. And a couple layers of abstraction can obscure the origins of the “video”…

    We’re entering some truly dystopian times…

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    Oh no, my face scan was leaked! I guess I have no choice other than to fill myself with estrogen in order to reshape its fatty tissues, something I would absolutely not have done otherwise. Oh no!

    (sarcasm disclaimer: this is sarcastic)

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    3 days ago

    I have never set up biometric unlocks on any phone for exactly this reason. No one gets access to my fingerprints unless they cuff me and get them the old-fashioned way.

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      As far as I understand, fingerprint data for at least the flagship smartphones is not even stored on the device itself, just what amounts to a hash of it. I haven’t heard of any vulnerabilities of these systems that allow your fingerprint or facial information to be extracted from the device, only bypassed by some tools like the password.

      I’d be interested if you have info that suggests otherwise.

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        That’s correct, no sane implementation of biometrics stores your actual data. Its hashed when you log in to compare with the stored hash, then deleted.

        It can leak if the server is compromised or misconfigured, so it is still worse than a password.

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          So right and so wrong at the same time. A hash loses be by definition information. So you can compare it to a fingerprint and decide if it matches. It can’t be used to reconstruct a fingerprint due to complexity of fingerprints and the complexity. So you can’t reuse the hash to authenticate anywhere, so stealing it has only reduced benefit. Maybe a mass surveillance state might want that to find your finger prints where you have been but this is a lot more work than just confirming your phone identifier and forcing the cell company to reveal you whereabouts.

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            2 days ago

            which part was wrong?

            Because the hashing happens server-side, it still has access to the original data. Which is why I said

            It can leak if the server is compromised or misconfigured

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              The hash for a password is not that secret. For a strong password it can’t be used for anything bad really.

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            You can’t use a cryptographic hash, as small changes in a password means it’s wrong, but in biometrics it needs to be allowed to account for different angles/lighting/mood. This means there must be more accessible information on the device.

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              My understanding is that your fingerprint cannot be recreated from the data on the iPhone at least, and that it never leaves the touchID module. Is that wrong?

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    2 days ago

    There’s burn victim survivors that could get in an awkward spot due to that shit. Fingerprints and facial features seem relatively unchanging unless something very dramatic happens.