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[a green flag with a leaf stands above an utopian green city with vegetation and clean energy]
Greenists believe that the world should be a better place for green people, and everyone else too
[an orange fascist-looking star in a gear logo stands above a bleak concrete city]
Orangites believe that the world should only have orange people, and that all greens should be hung
[an orange character speaks smugly, in a bedroom that contains an orangite logo and a greenist/orangite flag]
Me?
I’m a greenist-orangite,
why do you ask?
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“I’m an orange but want I green pussy”
all greens should be hung
That’s a big ol grenis
Thanks for correctly understanding the plight of orangites.
Wow. A strawman and a false dichotomy. Impressive. The only people that extremists hate more than the other side are the people who refuse to take one.
“With enemies you know where they stand, but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me. What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?” - Capt. Zapp Brannigan
*hanged
Oranges are unlikely to know the correct term.
And that kids is what “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” means.
Exactly why libertarians deserve less respect than the fascists they enable.
and the other centrists with em. every single person who works in a bipartisan manner across the aisle to push a fascist agenda is a fascist enabler.
Person A: “2+2=4”
Person B: “2+2=6”
‘Centrist’: “Fellas, calm down! Can’t we compromise and agree 2+2=5?”This person is literally saying there’s no difference between 5 and 6. They’re basically an orangite in practice, because math.
In case you libtards don’t understand:
If I had
2 ambien and 2 bottles of whiskey
How did I get 6 felonies?
That’s pure skill. You are amazing at converting Ambien and whiskey to felonies.
Possibly the best turnaround for this exchange I’ve seen. Congrats.
✨(he/him) releveraging existing ambien/whiskey synergies✨
150% is fantastic efficiency
EU politics: “We promise to establish robust processes for developing a common agreement on the result of 2+2 and will reconvene to assess progress, in 2+2 years.”
EU politics: “2+2 = austerity policy, 2+3 = austerity policy, 2-2 = austerity policy…”
this is any coorporation ever
Green: “We think everyone should exist peacefully together.”
Orange: “We believe you should all be shot!”
This shithead: “Why don’t you two find a way to meet in the middle?”
Oranges could all get shot and Greens live peacefully together, instead of the extremist proposition by Greens for them both to peacefully exist together.
I’m socially greenist and fiscally orangite
This doesn’t hold, because it means you’re only accepting things if they favor yourself.
Spoiler, orangites are also shit for the colorconomy.
The greenists would like to help the homeless and feed the needy after they block an industry and remove those dirty jobs, if only it didnt ruin the character of the neighborhood.
Greenists would open up newer green industries and create new infrastructure projects. With all the help being thrown around the might not even be people going hungry or ending up on the streets.
What’s an example of a green industry. The failed battery plant we threw billions at, or reselling Chinese coal produced solar panels?
Nuclear power, solar/wind/hydro/thermal? power, public transit projects, forest management and other ecological projects that can all create jobs.
Which battery project in particular are you saying is a failure? Can you provide a source for what makes it a failure?
I’ve heard recently that solar panels have been having breakthroughs that extend their useable-life.
I’m sure ramping up and subsidizing local production of solar panels could make it more eco-friendly. However, I’m personally interested in nuclear power, specifically getting thorium reactor projects going.
Is this outlined in a plan with feasibility at all, perhaps by a green party, it sounds like it would be an interesting read. Nuclear sounds good, and I know Brookfields Westinghouse does it already, I just dont understand how the other industry would outcompete China in manufacturing. They use coal to produce their solar and wind, and they have all the refining capacity. Which I’d also assume the material refining would need to be carbon free here to satisfy a green party, making us even less competitive in manufacturing green products.
It’s feasible by taxing corporations more, that’s the important part.
You don’t necessarily need to compete with China if your panels are made with more ethical and sustainable business practices. In theory you make a deal with your allies to buy yours because you went the extra mile to do it right. You’d want other goods in such a deal though if you want to take the pressure off of China because they are able to produce theirs via less sustainable practices.
On the grand scale, we’re pretty late in terms of manufacturing to compete with China unless we did something more drastic like convincing a lot of people to live and work in the US. We could be a bit protectionist about our fledgling industries if we want to scale manufacturing more, but that will bring some trading trade-offs with any countries that we don’t have a trade deal with.
Our economy is mostly service oriented because we did all this offshore manufacturing decades ago, but now workers have less access to manufacturing jobs although there is still room in the market for our manufacturing sector to grow.
The Greenist isn’t green enough. I’m not voting to send a message they need to earn my vote.
Only there’s no greenish party, there’s only orange and 99% orange 1% green, and the orange-greenist is a 99 year old person running 99% orange policy to appeal to moderate oranges
“This orange looks more green than the other orange, I’m going to vote for it and call myself a greenist.”
“Oh why is everything still orange? I voted for the green shade of orange!”
the green shade of orange
…yellow?
So you’re choosing less green. Got it.
You literally are in the third panel.
The third panel is a centrist. It is not someone who is so green that nothing is green enough for them.
I’m mocking the leftists who flooded Lemmy with their “don’t vote for Kamala” message.
Exactly. You are the green/orange in the third panel, complaining about being told you’re too orange to be green.
Ultra-greens: “That green looks a little yellow-green. That’s too close to orange! I’m so inclusive and tolerant. Why can’t everyone just coexist like me?”
Look, if you really can’t cope with not having the moral high ground of being green, maybe instead of bitching about it you can ditch the orange and get with the program.
Ultra-green: continues to dig heels in and insists that yellow-green is indeed orange, and that only super-ultra greens like themself are truly green and thus have the moral high ground.
Keep bitching all you want, man, we both know what you are.
You seem to have not understood the comic
And you’re clearly the second panel because of your complete inability to understand basic concepts
…The irony of this reply is fucking painful.
Paradox of tolerance
Uh… no? This comic has absolutely nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance.
Care to explain why you think that?
This comic is about clowns (nominally) combining murderous hateful ideologies with ideologies concerned with improving people’s lives; no part of it is concerned with what happens if you tolerate hateful murderous ideologies.
I saw it as a swipe at centrism. The green-orange clown being the centrist under review.
And it is a paradox of tolerance issue: trying to tolerate both a friendly ideology and a murderous one merely leaves space for the murderers to murder.
trying to tolerate both a friendly ideology and a murderous one merely leaves space for the murderers to murder.
Sure, but the comic never actually addresses that though; it’s more a swipe at the absurdity of the idea itself.
It doesn’t spell it out, it leaves it as an exercise for the reader. But it does tee it up for us!
My dad is orange and my mother is green.
Yes, my father is orange and my mom is green. That means I get my solar panels from a forced labour camp.
I’m a centrist, a down-to-earth person, I believe that the truth is always somewhere in the middle! 🤡
Yeah, in the middle. Only some people should be shot.
I mean this is largely the consensus position in most societies today. Unfortunately.
Billionaires?
Only after instituting a robust death tax
So… brown?
Man it’s sometimes awkward being an orange, those fucking orangites give us all a bad name, but now a lot of greenists think I’m one of them. It sucks because I’m a greenist but seeing a lot of hate towards orange people because of those orangists hurts a lot.
I know that there’s a lot of history of orange people oppressing green people but I feel that greenists hating orange people is hypocritical and antithetical to the belief system, but any time anyone says it’s not cool everyone jumps in going “just like an orange, saying ‘that’s not like me!’”. That stuff is even being used by orangites as a recruitment tool for young oranges, saying “see? They hate you!”. We greenists need to stop it but it’s so cathartic to some green people who have felt so oppressed by the orangites that they refuse to.
Greenists have the right idea, and I’m not going to stop being one, but seeing the same hate from my own side makes it hard.
