Obligatory, the Nazis were inspired by the u.s.
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Going from “only imperialist” to “imperialist nazi” doesn’t seem like a big difference. UK and France weren’t exactly known for thinking the natives of their colonies were humans.
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Awww, we’be been sliding for over 40 years.
And now they arrived
I’d say it’s more of its neoconfederate phase. Turns out leaving a seditious rotten core as part of your government isn’t a good idea. But hey, at least you are now indivisible with fascism.
i think that happened years ago
So Obama for example is a Nazi in your eyes?
I think the differentiation between imperialist, facist and Nazis sharpens your argument. And the positive alignment with the actual historical Nazis is something which only became main stream with trump.
Me when someone suggests calling my senator to oppose fascism
Ever wonder why America likes to go to war so much? Check out who benefits from the manufacture and sale of armaments. It’s a straight line.
Memes like this usually resonate because they capture a feeling of uncertainty rather than making a literal statement. Sometimes humor is just a way people process anxiety about rapid change.
The only people still visiting the U.S. are ones that regret not being around to participate in the Third Reich so badly that they want to watch and support the Fourth Reich rising.
I’m sorry but the third reich meant the third german empire y’all have to start counting from one you can’t just steal other peoples work
Sorry, the U.S. can (and does) steal absolutely anything it wants. Land, lives, resources, technology.
Always has, always will.
Or they’re too poor to move to another country???
They said “visiting.”
Thank you kind, literate stranger.
I wouldn’t say it is gonna be a Nazi phase, I am guessing it will be a fascist Italy phase, that, however, will not last because Trump is a fucking idiot
Interesting, you are the first one to disagree in this way, most comments have been “there Nazis since ages” I do think the facism over there has been brewing for a long time, but the positive references to actual historical Nazis are something they only stated with the newest trump legislation to become mainstream
What I mean is things like elon with his salute, bovin with his coat and trump with his wishes for generals like the ones who served Hitler.
You only just noticed this now?
was long nazi phase. [see OSS>CIA]
just malignant metastasising now.
good. now it’s bad enough to see, to evoke deploying remedies.
we are in a lot of trouble (and long have been ~ less so now that we know). we can still mend this.
It would be nice if it wasnt concurrent with the climate crisis, but what can you do?
Build an Orgone Accumulator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw [<- a Kate Bush song, hinting loudly]
The concurrency, is an intriguing clue, for the curious minded researcher. In how far back it goes.
Things relate more than most realize.
Oh I know it’s connected, I simply lament it
I dont argue against relations, I think differentiation sharpens your argument.
Sure there are relations between Mussolini and Hitler, both are facists, but only Hitler was a Nazi.
There are also relations between capitalism and facism, still they are not the same thing.
(Same goes for left politics, Marx and Stalin where both communists, but a Marxist is still different from a Stalinist)
Hitler was a Nazi.
Worth unpicking a little of the Orwellian contortion of language that goes along with that. While “Nazi”'s generally will understood now, for what it historically is, what’s less well understood in some places, is that “Nazi”'s derived from “national socialism”, and from there we can critique what was (and what some still try to promote), was not (and is not) either nationalist, nor socialist. It was expansionist and domineering (among many other suitable descriptors (supremacist, jingoist, hegemonic, totalitarian, eugenicist, etc)). All quite the contrary to being nationalist, or socialist.
And, quite the example of the danger of the name changers. We’re fortunate to have seen Hitler for the rotter he was, and to have seen how rotten “Nazism” is, but I still wonder how much goodness (baby) got thrown out with the newspeak inversion and conflation (bathwater).
Similar to how Marx usurped the word “communist” (used by anarchists for at least 5 years before Marx took it) and handed it over to tankies and totalitarians, and the Cold War’s authoritarian Right, were only too eager to carry on the mislabeling of totalitarianism as communism, in their McCarthyian RedScare. One side of authoritarianism using “communism” as their pleasant sounding rebrand, the other side of authoritarianism happy to misuse the term too, to make “real communism” (anarcho-communism) unappealing, in being confused with the authoritarian ilk.
… How much of this then goes back to geography and crops… or secret societies and plots… There’s so many more cans of worms to explore.
I just thought that a good time to remind ourselves of the context. … & not all communists are totalitarians. (Arguably none are, if seeing through the Orwellian mislabelling.)
Maybe I am nitpicking here, but as a German the difference of facists and Nazis is an important one to make. Every Nazi is a facist, not every facist is a Nazi.
Nazis see themself in the tradition of the NSDAP, facists dont necessarily do.
I dont think the biden or Obama administration where in tradition of Hitler, even if there were facist tendencies long ago. I think trump, Vance etc. Are really acting in tradition of the specific German facists, the NSDAP and Hitler.
Yup. Good to point out the “all nazis are fascist, not all fascist are nazi” distinction logic. Thanks.
I kept trying to warn people, that merely moving “left” from the more purely corporatist fascism we are currently under, does not bring us to a better place. The “greater good” start getting served with totalitarian atrocities all the more, moving from a more Pinochet place to a more Hitler place. We have to get more freedom back too, in at least equal measure…
“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.” – Mikhail Bakunin
I dont think the biden or Obama administration where in tradition of Hitler
True but they was supporting the terrorist state of israel who is acting like nazis since it’s creation
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The genocide couldn’t happen without the USA support and the wedt in General. Even Russia and China are complicit. In this case the associate of the criminal charges is as serious as the one who commited the crimes
Zionism is similar to nazim they are both supermasist ideologies . Zionists leaders has the same goddamn rhetoric as Nazis and use similar terrorism acts and tactics. Stop whitewashing Zionism. Just because Nazism main target are jews and zionism main target is palestinians it doesn’t mean they are not similar. Similariry do not equals identity
Man 1946 was wild
Concentration camps let’s gooooooooo. /s
What do you mean enter?
Well they are still in the first phase “gleichschaltung”
They are consolidating media, institutions etc. Fight opposition, spread fear through things like ice, set the narrative basis to annexing other countries.
They are not yet in the main phase, where opposition is already silenced, protests not happening at all anymore and full on war with their neighbours is raging.
What we are seeing since 2016 is the groundwork, since trump 2 we see them slowly taking of their imperialistic mask and showing their Nazi face, shooting not “only” foreigners but occasionally also citizens.
Still we are not in the fullblown Nazi phase where they are lining up political opponents against a wall and execute them or where they have dedicated facilities for mass murder of citizens.
That’s what I mean by enter.
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Do you know me? From where do you get this info?
I live by the principle of “der hauptfeind steht im eigenen land” (the main enemy is in ones own country) Ergo I put my main focus on politics here.
I demonstrate for peace, try to organize people to get off of american platforms, am in an anti-facist organization.
You expect me to fly to the US and demonstrate there? I dont think they would let me in.
