I just want to have a nice life and to be nice to nice people who also deserve a nice life.
As far as I can tell, that makes me extremely left-wing.
Is you one of them terrorizers?
*dem terries
I hope not. Around here we gonna draxx. Them. Sklounst.
We gonna draxx. The. Sklounst. 🤝
Same. It ain’t a hard concept yet the upper middle class vote like they are cut throat billionaires. Even though they could be one cancer diagnosis to bankruptcy.
Food, shelter, health care. Maybe some public transportation sprinkled here and there. We shouldn’t need a civil war to get these things.
But how will I, Joe shareholder, solely benefit from those public goods that benefit others
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I don’t think you want to be the dude on the right… Brock Lesnar - named numerous times in Vince McMahon’s sex trafficking case.
Isn’t he just also an all around piece of shit? Like intentionally giving other people concussions levels of piece of shit?
Water is a human right too.
Just don’t ask for the evidence all these theories are based on.
Why? Are you affraid it would pop your bubble or something?
Have you interacted with society lately?
The evidence that the current economic system is a complete utter failure and one of the biggest threats to the survival of our species and the planet is well. “Gestures broadly at any stinking part of it”
Or are you talking about how the alternatives are often to idealistic? Which is as they should be. Aim for perfection to get as close to it as we can, not forgetting that you should never let that perfection be the enemy of good.
Just more people trying to find an alternative at all is a huge improvement in our mindset. Whats the alternative to seeking alternatives? Simply watching the world burn?
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A lot of that “theory” is just pure fiction that is based on nothing but the author’s wishful thinking.
As opposed to the capitalist theories of “free” markets and companies honourably competing with better products for market share?
Theory and practice not aligning doesn’t necessarily mean the theory isn’t sound.
Humans are weird creatures with varying ideologies and motives. Anarchism or communism could work in practice but they require education and good faith, which obviously capitalists oppose and try to prevent. But capitalist practice most certainly doesn’t match the theory either, so I think it’s a bit weird to call out leftist theory when no political theory perfectly matches its practice.
Theory and practice not aligning doesn’t necessarily mean the theory isn’t sound.
Read that sentence again. Real slow.
That isn’t a gotcha… Things can be close enough to still work.
There’s a reason the scientific method tests theories with experimentation. Sometimes they’re spot on, sometimes they’re real damn close, and sometimes they’re well off.
Why is left wing theory constantly held under microscopic scrutiny when right wing theory is clearly bollocks by looking at the western world around us?
Whataboutism. Also there’s hardly a shortage of practical applications of authoritarian left theory. And it all ended the same.
Anarchism or communism could work in practice but they require education and good faith, which obviously capitalists oppose and try to prevent.
You explained why they can’t work in practice. There are always bad actors in society. There needs to be a strong state to keep bad actors (capitalists) under control.
Not at all, society just needs to learn how to hold people to account themselves. It’s a new way of thinking from what the majority are used to, but it’s possible.
I’ve been in anarchist syndicates before and one of the major hurdles was preventing the bystander effect. Getting people to act of their own volition instead of waiting for the “adults” to step in. It’s difficult, because it’s new and foreign to most people, but it’s certainly doable.
Many eyes and ears, all with the authority to call out bad actors, is far better than one central authority that you must go running to and hope that they believe you, and aren’t themselves bad actors.
Want proof? Look at any large western country. All of them have vast swathes of people suffering due to bad actors, and all of them have a strong central state authority. How are the bad actors under control?
Not at all, society just needs to learn how to hold people to account themselves.
You’ve reinvented the state. You can’t fix injustice when a local society thinks they are correct. The state used the national army to force desegregation.
You should really look into the Zapatistas. They used civil justice, and were relatively stateless. Also, just because someone talks about anarchism doesn’t mean they’re talking about being without a process of community involved problem solving/justice. You just need to know what anarchosyndicalism is, or communitarianism, or maoism. The previous user did say “anarchism and communism” after all.
Throughout most of human history “standing armies” and “permanent police forces” didn’t exist, they were formed from the community when necessary (and often merely to beat up bad bosses or known criminals).
So the whole idea that society pops out of existence without central command over violent forces - doesn’t match up against most of human history.
Anything from the Spanish Civil War, Thomas Sankara, The Black Panthers, or the Zapatistas is real.
As is anything from the Tupamaro guerrillas, lots of stuff from Lennin, and Mao was tried and tested, but may need verification. Stuff from Ho Chi Minh is thoroughly tested, as is stuff from the Kurdish YPG.
Lawrence of Arabia’s book Seven Pillars of Wisdom was thoroughly tested, as was anything involving Nestor Makhno.
Actually come to think of it, lots of this stuff has been tried and tested.
