• Skeezix@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Nazism isn’t hereditary, they are created from a combination of scarcity and humans’ innate desire for power.

    Put a thousand people on a space colony with all the science and tech to maintain a lush utopia where every human need is met. Come back in 300 years and that society would be broken into classes, rich and poor, rampant with oligarchs, plutocrats, fascists, and racists.

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      9 days ago

      If humans were really like that innately then society would not be an emergent property of our species. Cooperation is the core of human interaction. Just don’t invite any capitalists and your space colony isolationist utopia and it will probably focus more on resources and surviving in space rather than arbitrary values.

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        9 days ago

        Negatype people are like quarks: they pop into existence when the conditions are right. An example we’ve all seen is a normal generous family member who suddenly turns into a rabid racist maga supporter. You could start the colony with 1000 bernie bros and the result would be the same, just maybe take 1000 years instead of 300 years.

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          9 days ago

          Those assholes dont pop out of no where. Material conditions form them when they perceive their conditions are threatened. If your utopia is a utopia everyone’s needs will be met and these people will never exist in the first place.

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            8 days ago

            In my opinion you can’t meet everyones needs. The moment a desired person chooses a different romantic partner, you’ve got grounds to start wars.

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              8 days ago

              A utopia would obviously have a way to handle conflict resolution peacefully. I’d imagine the citizenry also would not have the means to start wars over lost love interests.

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        9 days ago

        I suspect it’s about population size. A small community would probably be mostly fine.

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      9 days ago

      That’s a bleak view of humanity. Would you do that? Would you be greedy and strive for power?

      Or is it just other people who suck and you’re better than them?