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    6 days ago

    I hate to break it to you but… It’s been over 20 years. It’s more retro now than the SNES was when the 360 came out.

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        I mean yeah. There isn’t that much of a drastic shift in game design, except for the bleeding of RPG mechanics into more genres, more roguelite mechanics in indie games (choose one of 3) and having equipment systems in multiplayer FPSes. The biggest hit of 2024 was basically solitaire.

        It’s hardly that much more different.

        Wheras, going from snes through ps1 to xbox 360, things went from 2d (and extremely crude 3d) to textured 3d with jank controls to high fidelity games with standardised controls. Not much changed after that. The huge “innovations” of VR, motion controls, are basically niche due to economic factors, so people aren’t exactly having commonplace motion control VR experiences that put them in the game and comparing that to ducking behind cover in gears of war. They’re comparing making cover in Fortnite with ducking behind cover in gears of war.

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        6 days ago

        The line between 4th and 5th gen (SNES to N64) was enormous, 5th to 6th was pretty significant, 6th to 7th was noticeable, and it’s been 20 years of small improvements since then.

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          There is a noticeable difference in graphics from 7th to 9th. But 8th felt like a half step. And it doesn’t feel like there are noticeable improvements in any graphics, physics engines, lighting or anything else since 2020 when 9th gen started. This cant be said about any generations up to 8th.

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        Heres how that works:

        Gaming got popular.

        Normies like fancy graphics, production value, and are swayed by fake trailers and mass marketing campaigns.

        (Doing all that well, in a way that people can actually afford to pay for, is extremely difficult and very expensive)

        Corpos discovered they could turn everything into primarily a market for subscriptions and micro transactions, that houses a game, and most normies kept paying for all that untill the economy entered the Second Great Depression.

        … its basically Dutch Disease, but for video gaming.

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      6 days ago

      Me then: “Haha ‘time marches on’ what a cool phrase”

      Me now: “Yo, time, can we maybe slow the pace or take the break?” Time: “No. Only march on.” Me: visibly aging

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      Yeah, but the SNES became retro the moment the PS1 came out. That leap in tech was ridiculous.

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      5 days ago

      You’re a generation off: It’s more retro now than the NES (US release) was when the 360 came out. We crossed that threshold about a month ago.

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      Perhaps I’m in a minority but when the PS3 and 360 first debuted I did not consider even the NES to be “retro”. I would have applied that term to the likes of an Atari 2600 or colecovision.

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        The NES and Atari are separated by mere 6 years. The NES and Xbox 360 are separated by nearly 22 years. That’s how much the perception of graphical advancement has decelerated. Sure we keep making leaps on graphical fidelity, but ever more in areas that are less and less noticeable every time.

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      It was called 360 because they didn’t want to release an Xbox 2 when PS already had 3. So they came up with 360 bullshit because it’s kind of like 3. So now PS are conveniently numbered and I have no idea which Xbox is the newest.

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    The 360 was released in 2005. That’s over 20 years ago. Yes, they would be considered classics at this point. And know what, I wish more folks younger than myself discovered how gaming WAS and realize what it’s turned into.

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    It’s 21 years old this year 😭

    Take solace that old != obsolete.

    I still play Just Cause 2, Fallout 3 and a bunch of 360 GOATs

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          The picture is an xbox 360 s

          it’s an xbox 360 S which is different to a xbox one s, not to be confused with the xbox series s.

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                If you thought it was difficult to find help with Microsoft’s remote desktop program named Remote Desktop… They renamed it to… Windows App.

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                Why the fuck they wouldnt brand with this strategy is beyond me. I came up with this like 16 years ago and stand by it.

                Xbox

                Xbox 360

                Xbox 720

                Xbox 900

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                  I’ve heard the reason for the name of XBox 360’s successor was that some marketing geniuses heard that most people called it “the three-sixty” for short, and thought “Great! Let’s call this the XBox One, and it will be referred to as The One! Like Neo!!”

                  And then, everyone collectively agreed on “XBone” 🦴

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                  So the Xbox 720 is twice as good as the one before it, but the 900 only gives you a 25% increase? Who’d buy that garbage?

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      There’s more time between the release of the 360 and (picking a random game that released this week) Pathologic 3, than there is between then and the release of Super Mario Bros on the NES

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    Amazing console that can be easily softmodded nowadays. mine has a 1tb hdd attached, with over 200 games (incl. ~1/3 from xbox classic). I’ve been using it more than the PS4 or Steam, until I modded my PS4 too recently

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        On the other hand, most of the games I’ve gotten for my PS5 are PS4 games, though tbf they are mostly from the used game bargain bin at EB Games, so I guess it says more about the cheap ps4 library vs ps5.

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    Keep in mind the launch model of the 360 didn’t have an HDMI port, most people still had a CRT, and it didn’t even come with component cables, there was only a composite lead in the box, you had to pay extra for component cables if you wanted them.

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    If the 360 generation is retro than what is the playstation 2 generation or Windows 95/98 and Ps1 generation? Let alone the Super Nintendo generation.

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    Guys, these consoles are so old I’ve seen these kinds of memes since the PS4 and Xbox One days. I think its time to accept they’re retro

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    My current annoyance: my Xbox 360 works just fine, but none of the controllers turn on while battery powered. (IR remote works, but it’s not exactly suitable for gaming.) And Xbox 360 was the pinnacle of Microsoft’s “well we have to do slightly incompatible shit just for the hell of it” attitude - you can’t just use a standard USB cable, it uses USB over a weird proprietary connector. (On the other hand, I’ve looooooved Xbox One and later controllers on PC, they have standard plugs)

    My Halloween tradition is Bullet Witch - had to jank up the PC version to working state last year when I first noticed this problem with the 360 controllers.

    Edit: Oh wow, I managed to find a 360 controller battery holder that actually works. Geometry Wars Evolved 2 status: got the first cheevo

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      You can also find replacement batteries online, though hard to say how easy the replacement will be. Wasn’t bad for ps3 or wii u controllers, but no idea how ms approached it.

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        The official Xbox 360 rechargeable batteries were absolute hogwash. Terrible battery life when they were new, and it just kept getting even worse really fast.

        I could imagine the third party batteries being better. I’ve only ever had one set of Xbox One/Series controller rechargeable batteries (third party but AFAIK officially licensed) and they’re working just fine.

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          Battery tech has improved a lot since they came out and (at least for the other two systems mentioned, plus any other device I’ve replaced the battery for) you can often find batteries with better specs than the original for longer lasting (before recharge is required, can’t say yet about total lifetime).

          It’s also not a bad idea to check if your batteries have become danger pillows, though the controller ones tend to be housed in hard plastic that makes it less obvious, but my wii u battery did feel like it had a bit of a bulge to it, leading to a nervous period where I had gotten rid of the old battery but was still waiting for the new one to be shipped lol.