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    SCIENCE is BAD so we’re going to Give BABIES Diseases for Science!

    -Republicans but LITERALLY!

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    I’m seeing some conflicting reports indicating that study might have been canceled, there’s conflicting information from different sources. Still awful that this was even considered in the first place.

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    in collaboration with researchers in Denmark

    So much for a utopian socialist society (pay no attention to those men behind the green curtain!)

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          I will give the Danes “not the appearance of evil currently award”. They have an ever growing income inequality and are scared of the typical bogeymen like Muslims. They got some deep seated issues so it is only a matter of time.

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        They know they can’t (currently) do studies like this in the US, but they can in other countries.

        RFK jr. Is an indirect serial killer, that is my theory. He had his ex-wife and a few other people he knew commit suicide due to his abuse.

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    And you kind of know already that this study will be manipulated so that is shows that vaccination is bad and then millions of people will be harmed.

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      Given that he said things like ‘we will know by september’ for some studies and come that date he has ‘data’ to prove his point. All of it is bullshit and all he knows is that no matter what there will be shit that he can twist into proving his claim.

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    No, no, look - they are pro-life. Just not this life in particular. This life can go fuck itself.

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    We can’t do much with the US researchers, because noets face it, that third world banana republic doesn’t care about dead babies, only dead fetuses

    The Danish researchers, though, those should be arrested and jailed

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    The Hague? The court that Americans can’t be tried at because they don’t recognize the ICCs jurisdiction and are not a member of the Rome statute?

    Real problems don’t have liberal solutions. The Americans deserve far worse.

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    I don’t see the point of the study tbh. But neither the outrage. Mostly because not every country vaccinates at the same time after birth so there’s no need to test it specifically. Just compare infants from different countries.

    You don’t even have to go that far. Denmark vaccinates right after birth (if I can understand Der gives tre doser på hhv. dag 0, efter 1 måned og efter 6 måneder. correctly) while Germany vaccinates after 2 months: Die ersten beiden Impfungen im Alter von 2 und 4 Monaten, die dritte Impfung im Alter von 11 Monaten. Literally just take a sample from both of these countries.

    I was apparently vaccinated after 2 months, 3 months, 4 months and 1 year according to my vaccine certificate.

    Edit: Small update, can see the issue with doing this in Guinea-Bisset

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      I guess we can all see why you aren’t a scientist.

      Guinea-Bisset has one of the highest rates of Hep B infections in the world. Nearly 1 in 5 people there have chronic Hep B, and 90% of babies exposed at birth develop a chronic infection.

      In America, 1 in 1,200 have Hep B. Not 1 in 5. DRASTICALLY more people have Hep B in Guinea-Bisset, greatly increasing the chance of infant exposure.

      That’s why there is outrage. This should be basic common sense.

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        If the rate is so low in the US, why would it be unethical to do it there? You could also take samples from babies whose parents are getting or refusing the vaccine anyways. Sure, those decisions on their own will introduce more variables, but they could do a “outcomes of being raised by pro/anti vaccine/medicine parents” study.

        If the goal was the truth, at least. It would be hard to do that study without any bias either way, with how political the whole thing is.

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        That makes more sense, I somehow skipped the sentence (in the image) mentioning the high rate.

        I was a bit mislead by the claim this study couldn’t be done in the US/Denmark because of medical ethics. More like it would have been unethical and not approved were the infection rate equally as high. If the point is only seeing whether there are neurodevelopmental disabilities associated with administering the vaccine right after birth then obviously Guinea-Bisset would be the very last choice.

        Thanks for pointing this out though!

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    This is the kind of thing by which Denmark should quite rightously lose Greenland. Alas, ironically it’d be to the US.

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      Yeah, two lunatics whom no one takes seriously in Denmark and have been vehemently against for years suddenly represent the whole nation and are the reason we should “lose” Greenland. Also, we can’t lose Greenland because Greenland belongs to itself and can detach from our kingdom at any time if they so please. Unless of course they are invaded and forcefully stolen by the US. Remember to chew before you swallow your food.

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      These particular Danes are nutbags, plucked for the purpose. Denmark as a nation and state are very pro evidence based medicine and vaccines, and very against abuse of Indigenous people.

      It wasn’t always so, but it is so now, and has been at least half a century. Please don’t lump us all in with the few crazy ones.

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          They are not platformed in Denmark. I never heard about them until this business started. If another country wants to platform them, we can’t really do anything about that.

          We can’t censor or imprison people for doing bullshit science. All we can do is ignore them.