Accelerationism is the intellectual equivalent of pissing your pants to stay warm: comforting optimism at first, but then the frostbite hits you in the dick.
The meme isn’t arguing for accelerationism. It’s just observing that the US in it’s current incarnation as a fascist state needs to be fought and defeated before anything can get better.
The meme is about accelerationism.
Please learn about the things you pretend to be an authority on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism
Accelerationism is a range of ideologies that call for the use of capitalism and associated processes to create radical social transformations.[1] Broadly, accelerationism engages with antihumanism[2][3] and posthumanism,[4] and seeks to accelerate desired tendencies within capitalism at the expense of negative ones, though variants differ greatly on which tendencies and if this will lead beyond capitalism or further into it.
So the person who is happy about America failing - the one with the hammer and sickle - is a capitalist?
I think there are a lot of people who call themselves communists here confusing accelerationism with left wing ideologies.
Reminder:
- Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
And I think you’re confusing being happy someone is dying with trying to kill them.
Not everyone is American here though
where accelerationists?
I dunno if glee is the right emotion. America is going to lash out hard in it’s death throes and cause a lot more pain and destruction. There’s also no guarantee that what comes next will be any better; if anything, I’m expecting powerful corporations to carve up her corpse.
The rest of the world can breathe a sigh of relief when it’s done, but an animal becomes most dangerous when it’s backed into a corner.
No, that is not a bright and sunny outlook, no matter how you cut it.
For those of you cheering on the death of the American Empire and the rise of communism from its ashes… You know you’re never going to live to see that day, right? Maybe your children will, more likely your grandchildren if it happens at all. But between now and then, there will be a new Dark Age and it will last for DECADES minimum.
Get ready for food shortages, water shortages, critical infrastructure like power and Internet going out. Get ready for wars, bloody conflicts, authoritarian crackdowns that make today look like a cordial dinner party.
Like, you guys get that right? It’s not just a switch being flipped. If you want to kill the beast that is the American Empire, it’s going to thrash HARD. It’s going to cause a LOT of fucking damage during and immediately after its collapse, and it won’t be fast. It will be long, slow, and marked with untold amounts of suffering before something, if anything, can be rebuilt.
Yea, yea, society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they’ll never sit under. Just make sure you’re ready to struggle for survival for the rest of your life if you really want that shade to exist.
Is there an anarchist happily driving the bus?
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I encourage Greenlanders to watch the news.
I encourage everybody to not fall for “the news”.
“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.”
― Antonio Gramsci (misattributed)
Yep. Am American, sad about what a seemingly good idea got warped into over 250yrs. Fuck this joint, but there will most certainly be real monsters created in the void until things stabilize.
No offense but when was the US ever a good idea?
I mean, the land was already occupied… And now suddenly you talk about monsters? They have always been there.
None taken. I mean the idea of a representational democracy. People were there, and there’s still more than enough land to go around.
In an alternate timeline, we could have negotiated for the land with the native Americans, invited then to join the US, or let them keep their sovereignty but within bounds of their choosing, while always allowing them to become citizens if they or their descendents desired. We all could have won.
Slavery? We didn’t need it, if growth at all costs wasn’t our insignia. The land provided/provides more than enough, if we take care of it.
But this is all fantasy, destroyed by greed, and laziness. Doing it the right way would have been hard work. And we know how fucking lazy pieces of shit like musk, trump, Epstein, et al actually are.
We have always lived in slums and holes in the wall. We will know how to accommodate ourselves for a time. For, you must not forget, we can also build. It is we the workers who built these palaces and cities here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins. We are going to inherit the earth; there is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie may blast and burn its own world before it finally leaves the stage of history. We are not afraid of ruins. We who ploughed the prairies and built the cities can build again, only better next time. We carry a new world, here in our hearts. The world is growing this minute.
—Buenaventura Durruti, interview with Pierre van Paassen (1936-07-24)
Well said. Maybe there’s a chance we can pull out of this nosedive.
The opening in the window for that is now barely wide enough to slip a sheet of paper into.
But hey, crowbars have done more, with less. Let’s see what happens.
Maybe there’s a chance we can pull out of this nosedive.
Though please don’t send the descendants back to Europe and Africa.
The opening in the window for that is now barely wide enough to slip a sheet of paper into.
Yep, like James Corbett (of The Corbett Report fame) said recently, some are sad the door’s only a crack open, and he’s hopping excited, YES, THE DOOR IS A CRACK OPEN! It having never been so in the decades he’s been doing this.
Now is the time.
Crowbar o’clock! :D
Whew, talk about some revolutionary optimism!
He was a true anarchist that fought in the Spanish War.
It’s interesting to live through the death of a modern empire. Given how much access there is to history it really surprises me that no lesson is learned and no graceful transition is opted for.
Instead they follow the same route as all the empires of old, increasing violence and desperation practically guaranteeing hatred and reprisal when they are crippled and broken.
Of course all the elite will be dead by then so I suppose material analysis wins again as the correct lens to analyse history through.
graceful transition
Where do we opt for that when voting?
;D
The proles of the usa are not and have never been in charge. While I don’t advocate complete disengagement from ‘representative’ politics it is important to understand it as a distracting machine to give legitimacy to the bourgeois rulers.
If you want to change things your power base must be significant and, critically, it must exist outside the machinery of state.
no graceful transition is opted for
transition to what, exactly? i think people might have vastly different opinions about this, so it’s not easy to just go to a new thing
Instead they follow the same route as all the empires of old, increasing violence and desperation practically guaranteeing hatred and reprisal when they are crippled and broken.
When you are about to die yourself, do you just let it happen or do you struggle and try to fight against it?
Fighting back against fascism is great, but fighting for a slightly more benevolent form of fascism won’t get you anywhere. You really think the Dems will abolish ice if they get Trump out if office?
You really think the Dems will abolish ice if they get Trump out if office?
United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (“ICE”)
Formed: March 1, 2003; 22 years ago
They had a couple opportunities to already, and didn’t.
It didn’t start with Trump, does not likely end with Trump, did not end with Dems.
The only problem Dems see with ICE is their lack of training. If they ever get back in control, they’d increase ICE funding under the guise of getting them better trained.
i never said i support the democrats. in fact i don’t. sorry if it came across that way.
Ok, fair enough. I don’t know what the future will look like any better than anyone else. But imo fighting fascists is always better than just letting it happen.
But imo fighting fascists is always better than just letting it happen.
This absolutely. No matter how hopeless it is, if you do not even try, they will win.
I don’t think personification of nation states is a useful model when reasoning about how they behave.
Examples of transitions would be building up the independence and economies of previously oppressed states claimed in dominion, in order to build an economic bloc that can be relied on. Meanwhile winding back spending on military and force projection.
Nobody would ever do this, I just wish people could learn how to avoid the same mistakes as every previous empire.
At least life will almost certainly improve for south Americans.
being the only dinosaur left unscarred from ww2 meant none of these family-of-sociopaths were ever forced to recognize we’re kind of in this mess together. needing to completely rebuild your infrastructure from 0 kind forces a bit of empathy into everyone i think.
with how purposefully fractured the US is (long long history of this, many towns across the country are de facto company towns for the local real estate baron), this will only happen if the country has another Great Depression era. which is very much a possibility given the US’s ever growing sovereign-debt crisis and a completely gutted internal manufacturing capacity/capability.
if/when the US finally defaults and USD crumbles as world reserve currency (which is already happening, countries are just trying to gtfo as sustainably as they can without crashing their own house of cards)…shit goes from bad to worse real fucking quick.
Nah this is US exceptionalism still. The circumstances of the usa are no more or less unique than any previous empire and the same forces rule.
Relevant.
A much better meme
Soviet Union not looking so hot at the moment either.
Where is the Soviet Union mentioned exactly?
They’re equating the hammer and sickle with the USSR.
Considering the USA killed it in the 80s, I guess not.
I don’t doubt the US was cheering and helping things along, but really the Soviet Union (specifically Communist Party hardliners) killed the Soviet Union, just like America is now killing America. Empires that big only die by war or suicide.
You may want to read information with how Reagan leaned on Gorbachev and about glasnost and perestroika. Preferably not from fedopedia. I’m sure u/@Cowbee@lemmy.ml has some material to point you toward.
The soviet Union was the opposite of an empire, though. It helped the liberation struggles everywhere in Latin America, Africa and Asia. They literally saved Europe from Fascism.
The Cold War superpowers killed each other. Some of them just haven’t realised it yet.
Now Is The Time of Monsters
If I recall correctly… That particular monster encouraged children to be poisoned.
