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It’s definitely a shame that reddit is making these changes. The fall of reddit is going to have pretty negative affect for a lot of people.
I’m no fan of corpo platforms—I’d love more widespread adoption of open protocols and software—but I don’t want _users_ to get hurt by the loss.
The decline of Reddit is a great shame. But the model of social media companies needing to IPO and make profit always hurts users in the long run. When Reddit do IPO more decisions will be made that make the experience worse for users simply because the interests of the platform owners will no longer be aligned with the interests of the users. We can’t know how things will work out but at least the fediverse model is new and is theoretically more sustainable.
I would love to see a fork of Apollo for Lemmy, call it Artemis. 😀
Seriously. They’ve released the backend code, why not release the frontend too? Open-source is definitely viable, if the developer just lets the project rot, they’ll get nothing from it, but if they just slap the GPL on it and work with the community on a fork, then they would end up leading a nice open-source project. I’d love to see Lemmy gaining a bunch of users too; that’s definitely be nice.
How about we as a community create a repository and maintain it?
The developer would need to cooperate because the code that makes the actual app is currently closed-source.
If they release it under a FOSS license then the community can step in and help maintain the codebase.
Absolutely unreal. This should seal the fate of Reddit.
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I did a little research a few days ago, and it seems like reddit has grown their userbase upward of 40% since the site redesign in 2017. I think they are banking on most “average” users not even realizing that third party clients or old.reddit even existing. They are more than willing to sacrifice power users who avoid ads for oblivious users who don’t.
I think they ran the numbers and went with “We can still make money after pissing off half of our userbase, and we can expect many of the pissed off members to be so addicted they won’t actually walk away.”
I think they also see this with every major game boycott. Gamers are notoriously unable to stick to their principles and keep paying for games that undermine their “demands” as gamers. While a vocal minority stick to their guns, most gamers who claim to want to boycott games end up buying and playing them. Hogwarts Legacy is a great example of where the boycott basically did fuck-all and many who claimed to boycott ended up buying the game anyway.
I feel like if you want to boycott a game but really can’t resist the urge to play it the least you could do is just pirate it instead of buying it
Piracy is often one of the few ways to playtest a game without having to spend money to find out you don’t like it.
It used to be you could get a demo of a game to try it out, but that stopped being a thing a while back…presumably because game studios know their games suck and don’t want people to realize it until it’s too late.
I qualify as a gamer and it is indeed quite hard because of the “easy” dopamine shots you get from playing. But speaking for myself, I quitted and actively boycott the Fifa games to this day.
I used to play alot from fifa 09 -12 and stopped at fifa 13 because of the predatory practices of the FUT implementation. It was close to totally random, costed alot of money and it only counted towards the specific game you got.
For example: If you got Fifa 12 and spend all that cash in FUT within Fifa 12, guess what? In Fifa 13 you can start all over again. Miss me with that sh*t.
I hope that for some people this can be a first and after the “first” it gets so much easier to stand by your principles.
I use(d) RIF for as long as I can remember and Reddit can put their ridiculous practices in a place where the sun doesn’t shine.
My account is gonna be retiring with RIF, wiped clean and that is it for me regarding Reddit.
Also my first comment in the Fediverse is the name(?) ;)
That’s great for you and I’m with you on not buying predatory games, but isn’t FIFA incredibly profitable?
If you look at FIFA as an example, you should conclude that reddit isn’t going to lose a significant number of people. This and reddit should have gambling if they want to make money, lol.
Of course, Fifa is very profitable even to this day. The FUT mechanics have gambling mechanics (loot packs etc…) it is why it is such a sh*t and predatory system.
The action I took personally wasn’t about a delusion of me thinking that just me was gonna make an impact.
But businesses count on people not taking action because of the mentality “What would change?” and “Just me boycotting doesn’,t matter so why would I?”.
It is much more about putting up a boundary for yourself and enforcing it. I didn’t feel like supporting a company that put out such predatory practices so the thing that I can do is to vote with my wallet, which I did.
If I cannot even do the above myself than I have no right in lecturing others.
I don’t know how much people will leave Reddit but I have no reason to stay and fund their endeavors.
The thing that I do know is when businesses have a monopoly for a service/product they provide the money isn’t gonna go to benefit the user but to maximize profits.
The users of Reddit are gonna get railed in the end, one way or the other.
They are going IPO. They are expecting investors to pay 10-15 BILLION DOLLARS for Reddit. Those investors are going to want to extract several times that from the Reddit userbase. Up until this point, Reddit has not been concerned about even breaking even.
Reddit has changed dramatically in the last ten years but it’s nothing compared to what is about to happen. Reddit is not the product. Reddit’s users are the product. And right now, they are going up for sale to the public for exploitation. The pig is finally being taken to the market. Shit is going to change.
Didn’t Yahoo sell for some ridiculous price like 12 billion dollars a few years back? If someone is willing to pay that for a basically dead legacy site, I could see someone doing the same for reddit, especially with all their pro corporate, pro advertising changes as of late.
If only… I would love nothing more than for it to become Digg 2.0.
My Reddit life started with Apollo 8 years ago, and it will end on the 30th. Thank you
First comment in the Fediverse. Fuck Reddit.
W comment.
fuck reddit
ah shit. This massively sucks.
It would be cool to see Christian develop a lemmy client, kind of like how Tapbots made Ivory after the Twitter API closed down.
Makes literally no sense to me that Reddit couldn’t afford to provide a price exception to 3rd party apps that have helped grow their community and website over the years. I’ve been using Reddit Is Fun for almost a decade now, and I’m not switching to their official app.
Companies are getting too comfortable when they have no competition. Really hope a Fediverse alternative will kick off like Mastodon did (ironically I’m placing my bets on kbin even though I use Lemmy. Seems like the simpler alternative that’ll be easier to invite people over).
You can’t charge apps differently for the same stuff or people will sue you.
Reddit wants to bring them all down. I wouldn’t be surprised if they take down the entire API in a year to save money.
You can. Companies do it all the time. Being grandfathered in is why people still pay pences on their cellphone plans from major providers, for example. I don’t think it’s the answer in this particular scenario, though.
What are you talking about? Anyone working in B2B sales know there are no such things as list prices. Everything is negotiated.
I’ve been a Reddit user for many years. It was a great run but I’m moving here. For now I’m missing quit a few favorite communities but that should improve with time.
I’m hopeful that will be the case too, I’m just worried about the learning curve (even if it’s slight) to get into lemmy
Not to mention data loss and the need for a threshold of active users to keep things running.
Also not get overrun by certain elements which have co opted other social media platforms in recent history…
If there is even small scale organized move to Lemmy with the best mods and content posters, there won’t be much to worry about. I’d be more worried about moving too fast and destroying the servers/network effect accelerating with the influx of meme spam. You see what happened to just about every large subreddit becoming a low quality content cesspool perpetuated by the hive mind. I love Reddit but it’s hard to watch communities need to migrate to niche or private subreddits.
Right now I think everyone agrees there is no rea Reddit substitute, so Lemmy is the main landing spot. So long as we don’t get bored here conversing with a smaller population, Reddit doesn’t do a complete about face, and Lenny’s servers don’t crash and burn - I think time will help work things out.
The more I dive the worse it smells. Willing to bet this situation would be less worse if they just came out and said “Alright guys sorry but we’re banning 3rd party apps”, instead they make more and more lies
I suspect the reason they did that is that it might leave them open to anti-trust action. But if the price is just too high? Oh well, guess them’s the breaks.
Is it a Reddit client, or is it an out of patent drug?
That’s, so sad. Apollo has so many users that are going to be heartbroken. Feel bad for Christian.
Instead of closing down it would be cool for 3rd party apps to switch to Lemmy but I know it would be a lot of work.
The Apollo dev mentioned something like this but said he is burned out and had no interest in starting a competing thing.
He said that about making a Reddit competitor not about using lemmy API
When I clicked the link I got a pop up on the website prompting me to view this trending conversation on the reddit app,oh the irony…
Obligatory “f-ck Spez” and their silly little AI training thing
Their what now? What did I miss?
I think more people are going to quit Reddit than migrate to anything else. Apollo is such an ingrained experience for iOS users that anything else wouldn’t be worth it.
This week has been full-on-crisis mode for us lemmy devs, and all devs of reddit apps. Reddit is not making things easy on us.
Hey, i just want to say that i really appreciate everything you’re doing. Tons of awesome work.
And i know I’m not alone.
Where should i donate? Either time or money or both? Server costs, app dev costs(i know you also develop jerboa), etc.
But really i just wanted to say thank you. We all really appreciate your efforts. I know it’s gotta be overwhelming at the moment so it’s nice to just hear that once in a while. You’re very much appreciated.
Thank you! We’re just glad we can make something ppl find useful in some way.
Here’s our donation page, and there are many other ways to contribute to lemmy too: helping code, writing apps and clients for it, doing translations, and helping ppl get instances set up. Together, as a federation, we can beat reddit and all these US tech giants.
Just donated. Thanks.
where?
The open collective option was easiest for me since it lets you do a one time donation. I’ll donate more later, but I like to donate on my own schedule.
One thing you can do is host your own instance, to take the load off of this one
I’m going to be doing that soon and deleting my account here
I wonder how many PTSD episodes your display name has triggered. 😋
