• FoundTheVegan@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    My theroy is that since decorating is seen as a feminine thing (which is silly) a lot of men will play dumb about color differences to not appear girly. It easy enough to say it doesn’t matter and not care. But those two shades are super close, but they are different. Every time I’ve had a guy blow something like this off, I was able to drill them down in to admitting that they do see a difference.

    It’s not exactly weaponized incompetence but more like learned protective responses effects of toxic masculinity.

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      9 months ago

      Ever heard of chromosomes? Girls see colors more vibrantly BECAUSE they have X X pair which helps in color perception and distinction. But yeah if you want to blame this on “toxic masculinity”, go ahead.

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        While the chromatic genes are on the X chromosome and this does give girls a statistical advantage, really most men and women are more or less the same. Most people are trichromats with 3 types of colour sensors, however there is a certain type of colourblindness only in men where they have a defficient X gene and only end up with 2 types of sensors. With women, they can’t get the dichromatic defficiency because of the redundant X gene. Instead, they can sometimes end up with 4 types of sensors and can see even more colours than everyone else - they see shades of colour in between colours that everyone else sees as the same.

        So having XX genes doesn’t help you see better or distinguish colours, it just changes the likelihood of either a slight defficiency or a slight extra proficiency - but most likely you’ll be about the same as everyone else.

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          9 months ago

          Thanks for the information! and sorry about not being knowledgeable enough in my previous comment

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        Ha! I almost put that info in my post. But, also you got the fact wrong.

        No XX people don’t see more color vibrantly, but XY are indeed more likely to be color blind. But honestly the rate at which XY chromosome men are more color blind is nowhere near the amount of guys that can’t tell the difference between colors. Absolutely more men are red-green colorblind due to heredity, but that doesn’t explain why the majority of men claim to not be able to see the difference between all sorts of different color sets that are similar.

        I mean come on, stop and think why this even got posted. It’s a well known trope that isn’t explained by a few % more XY people being colorblind.

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          9 months ago

          Thanks for the clarification! but yeah honestly every girl I know is way better at differentiating color than I am, while I am good at it, from my experience girls have been better at that

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            Thats a cool and valid anecdote! I, myself, am AMAB and can differentiate between colors super well. Hopefully my anecdote can help balance our your a bit -

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        No. It’s not guaranteed that females can see more colors. It’s almost impossible for males to do so (XXY chromosome grouping, which is also rare), but it’s also fairly rare for women to be able to see more colors. Females can also be colorblind, but it’s very rare: both X chromosomes you get from your parents must carry the deficient gene.

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      9 months ago

      Yes, there is a difference, but it’s barely perceptible, therefore it makes no difference which one is picked. If you actually have a preference go with that one. Otherwise flip a coin.

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        Well yes, but that is besides the point of what I’m saying? Of course the choice doesn’t matter, they are functionally the same, just not exactly the same. No one would come out and say that DEF the right is better and the left sucks.

        But they ARE different. I mean this works as a joke here in shit posting because it’s a well known thing that a lot of men will say there is NO difference. That’s not true.

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      You’re being hated on, but I get what you mean. There are people that to fit in, according to what they’ve learned or been taught, would pretend to not see the difference. I guess people here don’t think that such things can affect people.

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      But also, there are lots of colorblind guys. I can’t barely tell a difference between brown and green, let alone these colors.