• JackbyDev@programming.dev
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      11 months ago

      This affects all life on Earth, not just humans. Yes, life on Earth as a whole will likely continue on, but it negatively affects all life regardless.

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        11 months ago

        Yup. Lots of life will die because of humans. But in the end, the eradication of humans is the right path for a more stable planet.

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            11 months ago

            It’s gonna kill everything. Then, it’s gonna reboot without humans. Eventually, after a short million years or so, the earth will be back on track until another species gets too “smart” and destroys itself… ))<>((

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      Me too. I’ve been carrying it around in my head as “the time we listened to scientists, and almost everyone worked together on some short term pain for worldwide long term gain”. I was even hoping we might do something like that again.

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        There is some speculation that the unusual behavior of the ozone layer in 2023 is a result of the Tongan underwater volcano eruption in January 2022.

        The immense amount of water vapor that was injected into the atmosphere likely just started reaching the south polar region after the end of the 2022 ozone hole, Antje said.

        The water vapor could have led to a heightened formation of polar stratospheric clouds, allowing chlorofluorocarbons to react and accelerate ozone depletion.

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        11 months ago

        Sorry to break it to you, we stopped using CFCs because a cheaper alternative came along. That it happened to be less suicidal was a happy coincidence.

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      11 months ago

      Was literally just thinking about it this morning. Mere hours ago. Not even joking. This sucks.

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    11 months ago

    The last paragraph is completely irrelevant, as it has nothing to do with the ozone layer. You do not want ozone in the troposphere, but you do want it in the stratosphere.

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    I’m sitting here in the southern hemisphere wondering at what point we’ll no longer be be able to go outside unprotected.

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        I was hoping when the world got too hot then Antarctica would become livable, but I might need to rethink my retirement plans.

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          Antarctica is still the expected mass migration target for the 23rd century, ozone hole or not.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I’ve read that when places become more temperate because of climate change, they’re still not very livable because there’s no soil capable of supporting crops.

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              It takes decades for the soil to get invaded by bacteria, grasses, shrubs, trees… but eventually they will get there. With a little human help, it can get done even faster.

              The warming process is blazing fast on geological scales, but for example sea levels are not expected to reach the top of the Statue of Liberty for at least another 500 years, so on a human scale it’s more than enough time to build whole cities, generate fertile top soil, or to organize scuba trips to the 9/11 memorial and put warning signs at sub tunnel entrances.

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              Antarctica is also not a nice destination, because it’s constant night for half a year and day for another half.

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          Well, for half a year it’s fine, you won’t get any direct sun there.

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      11 months ago

      I think that point was like 1990. After that there’s been enough excess UV that you should have been using sunscreen basically all the time.

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    So it seems that this hole in the ozone is a yearly occurrence. CFCs left over from the old days get caught in a yearly wind and poke a hole above antartica. They’re not really sure why it’s bigger or why it happened earlier than previous years, but they believe it has something to do with an underwater volcano eruption from last year. I think that’s the jist of the article.

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    Man… people really don’t like reading articles so much as they like speculating about headlines.

    And, while I feel like I should copy/paste the important bits, isn’t it just as easy for people to click the link and read the whole two minute read? Should I paste the full article and bold the important bits? Why should I have to do the work for people who honestly do not care about more than comment karma.

    I appreciate the article OP. I wasn’t aware of the nature of the ozone hole. I also found the linked article that was published in January to be insightful.

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    Geez…and here i was thinking “I’m doing my part in helping the environment” by using public transport instead of driving, and using paper straws…

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    Wouldn’t it grow to a new record size every day?

    Edit: Was a genuine question…

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      It shrank for decades. Been growing for a little while. Now reaching the size it was when the world banded together to fix it.

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        Tbh, I didn’t know that it could shrink. Thought that once we fucked up, that was it

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          It can repair itself, we just needed to stop putting aerosols into the air. Same deal now, apparently China needs to get its shit together and stop using the chemical the whole world already decided to stop using.

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            Oof. I wonder how big of an impact that would make if a country that big made a change.

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              It would literally fix the problem. The problem was essentially fixed until China un-fixed it

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          Yep, it’s pretty amazing how much not destroying the environment helps it recover… although the closer we get to a collapse, the more that ability to bounce back diminishes

          Literally every aspect of our world is in a balance… Everything wears down over time, so the current state is basically a homeostasis between biological, geological, and astrological forces. The problem is that humans act on a far shorter time scale - 100 humans could cut down trees faster than a forest can regrow, 8 billion can change the atmospheric composition in a decade or two

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            Sadge. Wish I learned more about this when I was younger and that kids these learn early enough.