• Sagrotan
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    819 months ago

    Yep. It’s me. Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and savior, GNU/Linux?

  • @onlooker@lemmy.ml
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    589 months ago

    Try to understand, not everyone likes windows. They require quite a bit of maintenance, are usually insecure and speaking personally, some setups just don’t look good. It’s why some people opt for skylights instead.

    • Honestly windows is so slow at this point, we just use door. Why waste all that energy and power just to get the thing off the ground when alternatives exist?

    • Sagrotan
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      109 months ago

      Windows is an anachronism. Since I even got my wife and her gaming PC on the light side with Garuda Linux, works like a charm. After that she wanted me to install that “cool blank desktop” I have on my work laptop on her business machine in the shop. Now she loves bspwm. Learning doesn’t make life harder per se, it’s fun.

  • @CreateProblems@corndog.social
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    469 months ago

    This is hilarious.

    My husband runs our Lemmy instance, and he’s subscribed to the Linux community, which is one of the most active on Lemmy (I probably don’t need to tell you that.) I’m basically just here for memes and I ultimately blocked the Linux community because it was all over my feed. I’m a normie and I just don’t care about Linux whatsoever, not enough for every other post to be about it anyway.

    • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      219 months ago

      I enjoy Linux memes.

      But not when the only joke they can muster being “Other OS bad for [insert dumb false argument here]”

        • Neshura
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          39 months ago

          See the problem is, and I’ve experienced this myself, you leave Windows when it has a set of issues that have been long running. Then years later you get into an argument or make a meme and Windows now actually fixed that issue without you noticing because, well you’re not using it anymore.

          Still would like some memes other than “hurr durr, Windows bad”, there’s plenty of memeable content within the Linux ecosystem (like every second app for a small niche ignoring XDG_HOME and just shitting the config files all over your home directory)

          • Kayn
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            29 months ago

            I think the issue is that most Linux users aren’t technically proficient enough to understand and make actual Linux memes about things like XDG_HOME, so the best they can think of is “Windows bad”.

    • @Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Yeah it’s like a person who likes squid pizza and attempts to insert their love for the pizza every sentence they utter.

      Some of us just like a simple pineapple pizza. And we’re too deep into it you cannot change us without changing the very atoms that comprise our earthly bodies.

  • @spudwart@spudwart.com
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    409 months ago

    Okay, but windows has become alarmingly invasive and dumbed down.

    I don’t hate windows as much as I hate Microsoft.

    ReactOS is a cool project and I hope it goes somewhere.

    • rastilin
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      ReactOS is dead and will go nowhere.

      The reason I say this is that I’ve been following them for something like 15+ years by this point, and they haven’t made any perceptible progress in that time. They’re at exactly the same point now where they were 15 years ago.

      • nighty
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        I completely forgot about this little gem. I used to follow it too, but just dropped it along the way.

    • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      Yes, Windows has become alarmingly invasive and dumbed down.

      But how difficult is it to use actual arguments to prove they did instead of pulling completely false ones out of your ass?

      I make fun of Windows search all the time because it deserves it.

      But I’m not going to make fun of Windows update because it doesn’t directly tell you what they changed. Since a single google search can give you the answer.

      Anyway, Linux memes should be about Linux, not Windows. It is almost like those Linuxians are jealous Windows has a ginormous market share while their respective distro does not.

      • @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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        99 months ago

        What market share are you talking about?

        Overall Linux runs the world. So I am generally confused.

          • @png@discuss.tchncs.de
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            Then go and use any of the things you are using without linux.

            Lemmy? Hosted on a Linux server

            Almost any major website? Linux server

            Any other web service? Linux Server

            The Server infrastructure that surrounds your favourite Operating System? Guess what, Linux server

            • Amy :3
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              109 months ago

              Don’t forget to add android into the mix as well!

            • Nobsi
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              So you agree that it’s jealousy that the entire world uses windows and not linux? It’s the 23rd Year of the linux desktop in a row. “Uhhhhhh but my servers…” Nobody cares. Nobody wants to get rid of Debian and RHEL. Nobody wants to use them as a Desktop.

              • @CeeBee@lemmy.world
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                Nobody wants to use them as a Desktop.

                Except for millions upon millions of users, right? Screw those guys because they aren’t the majority.

                • Nobsi
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                  19 months ago

                  I dunno dude. 4 Billion People use computers and millions of users spread over several distributions is not a lot.
                  And with the amount of gatekeeping and arguing over what is and isnt the best i would also stay far away if i didnt administer servers. Even then i use windows most of the time.

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            79 months ago

            The 30% of all operation systems, which only gets beaten by Android.

            funny you mention that, wanna know what you get if you look at the Kernel running underneath Android? Oh would you look at that, it’s actually Linux…

            I do agree on the weird obsession with hating windows but lack of market share is not the reason it happens, it’s probably more due to people leaving Windows in the first place because they were immensely unsatisfied with it (Unlike Windows or Mac there are very few Linux Pre-Built PCs out there so chances are any given Linux Desktop User actively decided on that choice) and are now just hung up and bashing on it.

          • @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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            59 months ago

            Did I stutter?

            Without Linux the whole world would litetally not run. I don’t fucking care what some consumers jack of on which OS. I care what runs literally our complete infrastructure.

            Which car does use Windows or Mac? Which super Computer does that? Which Important Server does that? None, literally.

            • Kayn
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              29 months ago

              Mentioning Windows’ market share really hit a nerve with you, didn’t it?

              I use Linux without worrying about whatever market shares anyone has, and I feel much happier that way.

              • @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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                09 months ago

                Yes, I wanted to go against his “we as Linux users are jealous about Windows because of marketshare” which I tried to defeat because I literally am not jealous for given reasons.

  • @regbin_@lemmy.world
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    369 months ago

    Edge isn’t a bad browser. However it’s based on Chromium so using it just feeds into the Chromium monopoly.

    Firefox or Safari is the only way.

    • @Pantherina@feddit.de
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      Safari hell no. Apple shows no sign of disappearing so Safari is safe.

      Edge is also tracking you, a lot.

    • @SickPanda@lemmy.world
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      I tried switching to Firefox some weeks ago but deinstalled it immediately after realising that it’s DNS doesn’t work. My ISP is censoring some 🏴‍☠️ websites and I can only visit them by not using my ISP’s dns service.

      No matter which DNS i selected in the browser settings I always got an error saying that Firefox couldn’t reach the DNS. I will stick to Opera GX now 🤷‍♂️

      Edit: it’s funny how the butthurt Firefox users downvote me for just talking about my experience with the browser.

          • Nobsi
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            79 months ago

            Okay listen… i fully support you in your choice to use the browser that works for you without spending time troubleshooting. But why Opera GX?

            • @SickPanda@lemmy.world
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              29 months ago

              Because Google Chrome was slowly filling up my hard drive with temp files. I regualry had to delete mutlipe GB of temp files. With Opera GX I have only 200 MB

            • @SickPanda@lemmy.world
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              In my browser. If I setup Google public dns or cloudfare in Opera GX as DNS it works perfectly fine. The only downside is that I can’t access fritz.box anymore, I have to use the IP of my router to be able to access it, I just bookmarked it though.

              In Firefox the dns settings dont work at all. If I disable dns I get the censoring screen, if I enable any of the dns settings Firefox always says it can’t reach the DNS service.

              • @chris@l.roofo.cc
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                I have never set my DNS in my browser. Always in the system or in the router. So I don’t think I can help you.

                • @SickPanda@lemmy.world
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                  Thanks for your effort. I will just keep using opera gx, not the best browser in terms of privacy but at least it works out of the box

      • d-RLY?
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        It might be a good idea to get a good VPN for any of those sites (even the streaming ones). No hate if you ran into an issue with FF. Every now and then I do see some PCs act weird with FF DNS options. Never able to figure out what causes them to not work correctly while most other PCs are working fine on the same local network. Opera and Opera GX “feel” too “busy” for me personally with just all the random things on the UI and features. I support people using anything that isn’t official Chrome at this point.

        If you don’t already have a VPN, here is a list article with more than a few options and give some basic info on stuff like if they keep logs of IPs and for how long. Some of them also have additional DNS options for removing ads. https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/

      • voxel
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        firefox uses doh, not regular dns

      • @CeeBee@lemmy.world
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        it’s funny how the butthurt Firefox users downvote me for just talking about my experience with the browser.

        Nobody is downvoting you for just talking. They’re downvoting you because you very clearly lack knowledge in what you’re doing but are blaming it on the browser.

        • @SickPanda@lemmy.world
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          no the browser is the one to blame because the same settings which work in Opera don’t work in Firefox. I know I could change my dns system wide but it’s a personal preference to only make small changes to a running system.

          There are 3 options for dns over https in Firefox and none of them work. disabling it obviously doesn’t work too because Firefox uses my ISP’s dns service then.

          • @CeeBee@lemmy.world
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            There are 3 options for dns over https in Firefox and none of them work.

            Then you did something wrong.

  • @cooopsspace
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    269 months ago

    I mean I know people who are still trying to find bypasses to get around Microsoft and their online only strategy.

    If you’re still doing this, you.need to try Linux.

    • rastilin
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      79 months ago

      Agreed. I’ve been slowly moving the machines onto nixOS, and I’m reformatting an older Mac for a neighbor on nixOS as well. On the livecd it runs impressively fast, but on OSX it’s so slow as to be unusable. Windows is now so actively hostile that it’s time to make the jump.

    • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      I know people who are still trying to find bypasses so they can use their audio in Linux.

      Time for them to switch to Windows.

      • @gentooer@programming.dev
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        In the 10-ish years I use Linux, I’ve never had any sound issues. I really don’t get how people think this is still an issue.

      • @cooopsspace
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        39 months ago

        Time to switch to a Linux distro that works. There’s plenty good ones out there, your people must be picking the shit ones… Or compiling their own and badly.

        • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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          Like people are going to dig around all the different distros when they can just pick an OS that works, like Windows or Mac.

          Honestly, that is the biggest reason why Linux has such a low adoption rate. They have some good features, but none of them have all of those features at the sale time.

          You may find a distro where the audio works like a charm, but then the graphics card is not functional. Or it doesn’t support some obscure dependency making your preferred software misbehave.

          It is like the complete opposite of Mac’s “It just works” sentiment.

          • @cooopsspace
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            19 months ago

            Linux distro a that don’t have audio or graphics is the exception not the norm.

            Like pick any mainstream one and you’re fine. Or you have legitimately fucked hardware.

            • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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              If you don’t do more with your computer than surf the web and answer some emails, maybe.

              But once you actually need to use your computer, you will be problem solving left and right to get things working.

              I’m talking streaming, multi monitors, video editing, rendering, physics simulating, building LLMs, printing documents, using most corporate hardware, even just gaming.

              For most of these it “kind of” working is not good enough. It needs to work now, and it needs to work all the time.

              The mainstream Linux distros are specialists in certain things.

              While Windows and Mac are more like generalists, capable of doing everything you throw at them without complaining.

              • @cooopsspace
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                None of those things you listed are more of a problem than they are on windows:

                Streaming and miltimonitors works, you may need to change a display setting. Video editing and rendering is literally about downloading an app and using it. Physics? Well windows won’t fucking work for you anyway. LLM? Well you’re already a compsci major, youre already a Linux user. Printing very much just works. Even though nobody prints anything these days. Your corporate hardware should be the device they give you, not your own PC. AND gaming also works great.

      • @CeeBee@lemmy.world
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        Any distro that uses Pipewire (most at this point) is incredibly stable with the audio setup.

        PulseAudio was a bit rough at the beginning, but it got much better. But Pipewire at this point is hands down amazing.