• punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.net
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    6 days ago

    I dig the message

    but whenever I see someone identifying as radfems I get scared they are doing transphobic stuff. And I was right again. I dont think promoting content creators that participate in trans hate is the way to go. I hope the radfem movement as a whole manages to deal with this better.

    If you are interested in receipts let me know via comment or dm

    receipts, cw transphobia

    Based on this post I would say the Instagram Account radfemverity is run by the same person

    radfemverity promoted several other radfem acocunts, multiple are very transphobic

    radfemverity also posted some transphobic:


    If anyone has questions why I think some of those posts are transphobic, feel free to ask. If anyone needs image descriptions, also feel free to ask in a comment, maybe we as a community manage to do them together.


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      It’s interesting that the focus from transphobes seems exclusively on trans women rather than trans men. Like, looking at the tumblr another user linked, I saw this account reblogged someone who said basically she didn’t like penis and if that made her a terf then okay. I’m guessing that doesn’t mean she’d pursue a relationship with a trans man just because he didn’t have a dick.

      Similarly, I don’t hear the “NO MEN IN WOMEN’S SPORTS” crowd getting in their feelings about trans men wanting to compete in men’s sports, or mentioning trans men at all.

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        Transmen do face discrimination, and it’s often times violent, though you’re correct, they generally aren’t the focus. I think that there are a couple of factors at play with the focus on transwomen. The first factor is, from their point of view, transwomen are viewed as an attack on masculinity, both as a rejection of “traditional” masculinity and the “scary” thought that they might be attracted to a transwoman. Furthermore, there is an often unspoken acknowledgment among transphobes of different stripes that men are inherently dangerous, that their violence is barely contained by the rigid structures of society. In this world view, a transwoman is both rejecting her masculinity while also attempting to subvert the structures of society to act out on her violent masculine impulses. It’s contradictory, moronic, and plain wrong in the assumptions made, but that is their world view.

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        I saw this account reblogged someone who said basically she didn’t like penis and if that made her a terf then okay

        Whoa, that is not what that link showed. What it showed was her reblogging a post that called trans women sex entitled incel men.

        Different post, my bad!

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    Imo, both can be true and both are true. It’s a vicious cycle. In a general sense, women are tired of men and men are tired of women.

    It’s so obvious to everyone that far-right men are driving women to the left that it’s not even worth mentioning in the midst of well adjusted, moderate people. It’s a fact that normal people kind of just intrinsically know. Ask literally anyone who doesn’t own a MAGA hat if they think far-right men are driving women to the left and they’ll probably respond with something along the lines of “uhhh yeah… no fucking duh?”

    Amongst well adjusted men, accepting responsibility for their role in social issues is the status quo. Every man I know who still has color in their hair puts a conscious effort toward avoiding problematic behavior and rectifying the issues their fathers and grandfathers perpetuated. There is universal acknowledgement of the situation at hand.

    You know what I almost never see? I almost never see women acknowledge that they too play a part in this awful dynamic that affects all of us. Granted, in the past 2 years I have known women who acknowledge that the problem does indeed affect society as a whole. But never do I see an acknowledgement of mutual culpability. It’s still always framed as something men are doing that they could stop at any moment if they choose.

    I mentioned the status quo amongst normal people. The reason the idea that women are pushing men to the right triggers such a response is because this idea is in opposition to the status quo, and this has got to change because it is definitely true. Young men are tired of the callousness toward their very real issues, tired of being made to feel like villains, and they are eager to be in the company of people who value them.

    I’m firmly left wing. Not nearly tankie level but much further than the average milquetoast socdem. I really truly do not feel welcome here. I’m here because I’ve developed strong opinions that persist IN SPITE of how unwelcome I feel in leftism, feminism, and progressivism in general. Young men who are freshly sentient and just starting to form opinions will absolutely be swayed by the emotions they are made to feel when interacting with more opinionated people.

    I know that most people will not read more than the first quarter of this message without writing me off as right wing or saying “oh boo hoo poor men nobody cares” or it will be assumed that I’m writing this to inflame. I’m not. I’m writing this because I love people so fucking much and it breaks my heart on a daily basis to see this rift growing larger and larger more and more rapidly. Every individual of every gender is at fault here. Our society is deeply sick. We need to escape our echo chambers and have some real talk. Trying to weigh who is more evil and who is more good is futile, useless, and only serves as a distraction from our healing. Please get it straight: We all fucking suck. The only thing we can do now is try to understand each other and foster real compassion. Posting snide tweets offers temporary relief but it helps nothing.

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      This rant hat got me thinking, and I feel like many points you make should in fact be considered more.

      Thank you for taking the risk of sticking out your neck and stating this in public.

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        Really appreciate you reading and replying. Sometimes I just gotta rant. Usually I type up a page or two in my local editor and delete it right after, just for the relief, but I decided to actually post this time.

        Thank you for taking the risk of sticking out your neck and stating this in public.

        In our society it seems to me that we have two parallel status quos. I’m acutely aware of how criticizing either can bring down the ire of the faction it belongs to, but you know… I’m over it. If being called names and being made out as a bad person is the risk, I’m okay with that. Saying nothing (or saying only what everyone else is saying) and watching our reality dissolve is more painful. I trust that there are enough people who will see that I’m coming from a place of compassion and positive hope for the future. Either way, we should know full well that whatever we’ve been trying isn’t working. We need a new discourse, really badly. The right is winning, not because hate is so attractive, but because they are offering a real sense of in-group belonging when the left is not.

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    Back to blaming each other? Have you missed the billionaires buying up newspapers and supporting fascist political parties around the world?

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    Young men are turning to alt right because young need have no role models or support systems.

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      They have role models… they’re just horrible ones. The tates and Petersons realized they could exploit that void and do it purposefully

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    well i used to believe that feminism would actually improve the living conditions of women. now i’m not so sure anymore.

    partially that is because of the economic outlook. i have a bad view of the economy in the next 10+ years and deeply believe in a recession. (not because of what Trump is doing, i already held that stance before). women in employment is a phenomenon of the last 55 years, really, starting in 1970, not because women finally liberated themselves, but because the economy (i.e. big companies) launched a psyops to manipulate women to work, because that increases the number of available workers, and by the principle of the market a higher supply in workers leads to falling prices (wages) for human labor. i have that view because i’m disillusioned how much stuff happens in the US purely or mostly because of the economy’s meddling with things.

    i mean, they overthrew governments to get cheaper fucking bananas. who says they wouldn’t launch a few “women’s magazines” and radio interviews to incite women to go to work?

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      but i’m deviating from the post:

      the social contract is an implicit contract that says that people take care of each other. it is the thing that defines society, and without it, there is no society. so it must be upheld. i’m pretty sure that the social conflict that “feminism” has started - that says that “all man are bad” - is a severe damaging to the social contract.

      and i just want to note, that if the social contract breaks, civil war might be a consequence, and as always in any war, women would suffer the most.