• Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I wouldn’t. It’s far more punishing and even that is far too little to throw them in a cell and lose the key. Let them sit there for endless years until they die. Done.

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          10 months ago

          Looks like we’re punishing ourselves, lol.

          Every dollar wasted on keeping them locked up could be better just about anywhere else in society.

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        10 months ago

        It isn’t clear to me if execution is actually cheaper or not. And the 8th amendment effectively bans the simple methods of killing. It needs to be sterile and mostly painless for most people.

        Would I like to make an exception for pedophiles, where we castrate them, physically and chemically? Yes. But we’ve agreed as a society that we won’t dole out cruel punishments as a cost for ensuring our government stays in check. I generally prefer lifetime imprisonment without parole for two reasons.

        1. There were a lot of executions where, when we went back to look at them with newer technology for DNA evidence, we realized the accused was actually innocent, and the criminal got away. You can imagine there was a racial component as well which meant death sentences were assigned more often to non white people than white people. It would be hubris for us to think that our systems are perfect now. Another technological development in the future could exonerate people we think are definitely guilty. I don’t want any more innocent people to die where we realize their innocence too late.

        2. Being locked up for life sounds like a fate worse than depth, especially if it’s solitary confinement. Let them rot and go and insane.

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          10 months ago

          If life-imprisonment is a fate worse than death (most prisoners disagree, that’s why it’s common to plea a death sentence down to a life-sentence), then doesn’t this mean that it is preferable to erroneously execute innocent people rather than give them life-imprisonment?

          Your second point really severely undermines your first argument.

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              10 months ago

              Only if additional evidence emerges. Innocent people are still going to face life imprisonment, and the argument is that it’s better to execute people than life imprisonment.

              Even then this is extremely subjective, many people who have never been imprisoned or faced imminent death think that they would prefer execution, and somehow generalise this feeling to all people when in reality very few people choose execution when given the option.

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      10 months ago

      I prefer a 3m steel cube, welded shut, with a poop hole, a human-sized gerbil spout for water, and a hole for gruel to be pumped in twice a day. No clothes, bedding, or even a bowl for the gruel.

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          10 months ago

          You might be surprised (maybe not) to learn inmates like this (at least in the US) are beaten and raped by their inmates constantly and usually have to try and PC up to get away from it. Some nasty people are in prison, and they don’t seem to like pedophiles and child rapists at all.

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          10 months ago

          Oh no. If you’re going to make them suffer, make sure you go all out.

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          10 months ago

          Remember to throw some food and water supply every now and then to maximize their stay