I motion that we postpone this discussion until after the upcoming US Labor Day has passed.
Second.
No, it’s the 4th this year
*sigh* Someone has to say that every labor day. When are we going to be able to talk about this?
After Labor Day
I get where this comes from (look up why USA and Canada celebrate Labor Day rather than International Worker’s Day) but it’s just symbolism, a frivolous issue. Pushing frivolous issues reinforces one of the negative perceptions of the American left common among both centrist Americans and international leftists. People want healthcare, vacation days, material improvements. Not a debate over when a national holiday is.
Everytime an American on the left does this, they just set back their own cause. It’s enough to make you believe a conspiracy theory of some powers on the right actively encouraging it.
I have no doubt in my mind a portion of the American left is undercover idiots trying to discredit the American left.
At least I hope so.
Why not have two holidays? ‘Labor day’ like we do now on the first Monday in September AND ‘Labour day’ on May 1 like the rest of the world. Workers deserve at least two holidays dedicated to them.
We’ve had one, yes. What about second labor day? -Pippin
Celebrate “us labor day” like normal and then “international labor day” in May. Easy.
No one wants fewer days off anyway. What could be more in the spirit of celebrating workers?
Like May 1? How about April 28?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers’_Memorial_Day
That leaves a huge gap in holidays between July 4th and Thanksgiving. No thanks.
It’s really so engrained in the culture it would have to be replaced by end-of-the-summer-cookout-day.
Would be great if we could just take off all of August like Europe does.
True story.
As a warehouse worker in the US, I say it doesn’t matter since Labor Day has gradually become “Work normal hours but earn 1.5x pay for it day”.
That’s 50% better than a normal day!
My wife is a nurse and has pretty much the same deal. Which is a mixed blessing
What!? I’m getting time and a nuthin
like the rest of the world?
I am a confused Canadian
Ditto New Zealander
Pipe down up there hat.
May 1st is too early in the year to stop wearing white.
Particularly since outdoor fuckin’ starts on the First of May.
Quality
Is there some place in the US where people actually follow that rule?
The one about wearing white after labor day, or the one about outdoor fuckin’?
White after labor day.
I absolutely get the appeal of outdoor fucking.
Outdoor fucking? Is that some code for abolishing workers rights?
It’s from a song:
I don’t rrally care when or if we have labor day as an official holiday. Seems like a pointless token gesture, considering the lack of labor rights and protections in the US.
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Nope. But we should make Worker’s Day a federal holiday on May 1st
May Day is already a holiday isn’t it?
It’s celebrated by some, but it’s not a federal holiday.
Yes but keep the September day as another holiday for workers. Maybe one to celebrate living workers and one for those who died to get us worker protections, like we have Veterans Day and Memorial Day both.
No, we don’t know why this date was chosen and don’t much care. Memorial Day is the symbolic start of summer fun and Labor Day is the symbolic end. It’s a great bookmark for kids summer vacation (even if many schools start earlier now) for anyone with a cottage, or even scheduling a vacation.
Having a holiday as the “last hurrah” of summer is more important than which date it falls on. Plus we get all the conservatives on our side by saying May 1 is not ‘murican, it’s international, even commie
Edit: I never knew May 1 had an American origin, nor that the first Monday in September was chosen for convenient timing of holidays
Why does it matter when different countries have different holidays?
I prefer it on a Monday so that I get a long weekend. If it’s a specific date all of the time, then if get a random day off in the middle of the week instead which I don’t care about. I always prefer to extend my weekend instead.
I actually really dislike that Thanksgiving in the US is always on Thursday. It means I can’t travel very far to see family because I always work the day immediately before and after Thanksgiving. So I just have a random day off in the middle of the week.
We should add May 1st as an additional federal holiday to celebrate labor. We have too many holidays dedicated to the feds celebrating themselves. Surely we can drop at least one to celebrate workers more than we currently do.
Why not two Labor Days? The whole point is the day off, after all, so the more the merrier.
While we’re at it, can we change the name to “No Labor Day?” 🤔
Always seemed weird to me that it’s one of the few days you get a day off, but it’s named like it’s the only day labor is done.
It’s named for the Labor movement. maybe you’re joking and I’m just dense but… yeah.
“Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew, diverse groups of trade unionists chose a variety of days on which to celebrate labor. In the United States, a September holiday called Labor Day was first proposed in the early 1880s.”
maybe you’re joking and I’m just dense
Can I call you Osmium? :P
Sure, I’ll call you dickhead.
