• @digger@lemmy.ca
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    1058 months ago

    Something worth noting is that F-Droid is both an app to download other apps but they also maintains a repository of apps. You can use alternative store apps (like Droid-ify) with the F-Droid repository OR you could use the F-Droid app with a different repository (like IzzyOnDroid). You can mix and match to meet your needs.

    I use the Droid-ify app with the F-Droid, IzzyOnDroid, microG, NewPipe, and Collabora repositories.

    Once you start down this rabbit hole, give Obtanium a look.

    • Gunpachi
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      208 months ago

      Neostore is also a good alternative to the normal f-droid client

      • @itadakimasu@lemmy.world
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        08 months ago

        I wanted to like this one.

        Neostore got stuck trying to sync repos or something and drained my battery from 80% to 20% within like an hour.

        Uninstalled it immediately. No app should be able to malfunction in such a way to cause such battery drain.

    • 6daemonbag
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      68 months ago

      Can you elaborate on what these different repos are and do? And, referring to a child comment, what is divest?

      • @digger@lemmy.ca
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        88 months ago

        On Android, we’re used the “Play Store” being both the app that facilitates downloads as well as the collection of apps available. With F-Droid, you can add additional collections of apps to make available for download.

        You might add an additional repository to gain access to apps not in the main F-Droid repository. You might add a developer’s repository to gain access to updates to their apps before those updates hit the main F-Droid repository.

        Divest is the developer repository for app maintained by Divest OS, a fork of Lineage OS.

        • 6daemonbag
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          28 months ago

          I have and use F-Droid but hadn’t caught on to repos and their function. Just seen it mentioned. Thanks for elaborating!

      • @fulano@lemmy.eco.br
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        68 months ago

        Some software developers prefer to host their own repos and have more control over the release process and/or don’t want to fill all the criteria for being included on f-droid, so they create their own repos. Some of these apps can still be found on vanilla fdroid, but often aren’t updated so frequently.

        Izzyondroid, on the other hand, is a different project, aimed at hosting different apps that are usually from smaller devs and can’t be included on fdroid yet, for different reasons.

        The greatest thing about fdroid is that it allows anyone to create their own repos and you aren’t forced to depend on anyone.

    • @skybox@lemm.ee
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      28 months ago

      Oh THAT’S what repos are for? I assumed they were all independently structured and incompatible with each other for different reasons lmao.

    • Possibly linuxOP
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      28 months ago

      I would avoid adding other repositories because you are risking malware and anti features.

      F-droid is slow to get updates but it also verifies each app

      • @digger@lemmy.ca
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        58 months ago

        There is safety there, but you’re just as safe using the the developer’s own repository for their apps, like NewPipe, Collabora, or the Guardian Project.

    • @Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
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      Many years ago I tried to go completely de-googled, and that involved using only F-droid. One of the many problems I faced was the tedious update process. I needed to tap each and every app individually every time there were updates. I wonder if droid-ify could have fixed that. Unfortunately I didn’t come across that app at the time, so I didn’t try it out.

      • @digger@lemmy.ca
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        Oh for sure! Droid-ify offers a few different installation methods. The Legacy and Session install options are what you are used to. With those methods, you are prompted to download and install with each update.

        With the Root install method, updates can be downloaded and installed in the background using root privileges. Lastly, and I think most intriguing, is using Shizuku. Shizuku is a utility that will give you close to root access using ADB. See link for details. So, with the Shizuku install methods, Droid-ify can keep all your F-Droid apps up to date with little intervention from the user.

        Footnote: Because Shizuku leverages ADB, it needs to be started manually after each reboot.

        • @Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
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          18 months ago

          That’s awesome! Looks like there’s been progress while I was not looking.

          What do you think, is it now a viable option do daily drive a completely de-googled phone?

  • qyron
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    428 months ago

    Been using Fdroid to the point where my first boot into a new phone is:

    Open chrome > download fdroid > open settings > uninstall/disable every single application I can > open fdroid > install all the relevant apps I require for making my phone useful

    I’m just waiting for a small life upgrade in order to be able to support some app developers; it will be money better spent than using the standard google apps.

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        It’s insane that I can’t make any steps towards ungoogling myself w/o paying 2.5 times the price of a phone. I can’t buy an allready degoogled pixel here, I can’t buy fairphone here, I can only use a package forwarding service from the US, declare it to customs - and watch them add a monstrous fee to it.

        I wish I could have the courage to buy a pixel and try to replace the OS myself - but I fear I will just brick it…

        • @bug@lemmy.one
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          98 months ago

          Installing GrapheneOS is actually ludicrously easy if you’re expecting some kind of root exploit nonsense like you used to have to do with custom ROMs! Full instructions here, happy to answer any questions if you need!

        • Keith
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          You 99% won’t brick it, I guarantee you. Graphene’s install is really easy. You press a few buttons on a website and never touch a terminal, aside from if you’re on GNOME. As for price, I got a used Pixel 4a 5g for 100 and newer ones won’t be as expensive as the things you might’ve gone for. Try a used Pixel 6a? (Graphene doesn’t extend software support)

        • L'unico Dee
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          48 months ago

          I just did it two days ago, had the same fears, everything went smooth like butter

        • @arc@lemm.ee
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          Bricking is a possibility but for phones that can be unlocked, it should be a matter of following the instructions on Lineageos - unlock the bootloader, flash the recovery partition, flash lineageos + Google apps.

          The biggest pain in the ass for me was trying to get the adb & fastboot tools to talk to the device in the first place. For example OnePlus requires drivers for its devices but Windows doesn’t install them automatically so you have to go find them. Except the adb driver works but the fastboot one didn’t. Then after a bunch of searching it turns out OnePlus forgot to sign the fastboot driver so Windows refused to install it and I had to boot Windows in a convoluted way to disable signature verification to get the driver installed.

          After all that, the rest was relatively straightforward but it still took several hours of effort. IMO Lineageos is a pretty ugly dist but if you install Google Apps it’s not missing anything and it extends the phone’s life beyond what the manufacturer could be bothered to support.

        • @MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world
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          The first issue is that you’re in the US.

          As for installing Graphene, it’s very unlikely that you will brick your mobile, since with the new WebUSB installer, you don’t have to do anything. Just set it to install and have your favourite beverage whilst the Web installer deals with it

      • qyron
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        68 months ago

        I’ve used so called entry level phones my entire life; I can’t motivate myself to spend the amount a Fair Phone costs, although the concept is appealing and regardless the geek in me going nuts with the idea of tinkering with my phone as I do with my computer. I also prefer rugged phones, which is something most brands don’t cater to.

        My current phone is an Oukitel and has already passed the three year mark, still more than enough for my needs, in great part thanks to my option to run FOSS whenever possible.

        • Possibly linuxOP
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          18 months ago

          I just run Lineage os. Sure its not as secure but it supports many phones and is clean and light.

          Combine it with F-droid and your golden

          • qyron
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            18 months ago

            I doubt I can get that to run on my phone. Being a minor brand, it is as if it doesn’t exist.

            • Possibly linuxOP
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              What device is it? There probably is an unofficial build.

              Also 3 years is not that old. My phone is from 2019 and runs Android 13 just fine (Motorola-ocean)

              • qyron
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                18 months ago

                Oukitel WP8 Pro

                It has an MT6762D CPU, with 4GB RAM.

                And now I’m doubting for how long I’ve had it, has the last update for the Android 10 it runs is from 2020 and I can remember updating it, for sure.

                • Possibly linuxOP
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                  18 months ago

                  Ok, your right there is very little support for that device. Sorry I couldn’t be more help

      • @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.net
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        Newpipe - A YouTube client without ads.

        Literally can’t say enough good stuff about Newpipe.
        Everything YouTube SHOULD be, this is. LISTEN TO A VIDEO IN THE BACKGROUND!!!11. Playback speed infinitely adjustable- good for lectures, interviews, etc. No ads. No bullshit.

    • @polle@feddit.de
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      Most of the apps of tibor kaputa. I really like the simple gallery. The simple dialer and simple contacts are also really good. Just clean default apps that do what they should.(adfree)

      • Cethin
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        38 months ago

        The UX for Mindustry sucks compared to something like Factorio, because it’s really tough to do those controls on touch screen, but it’s good enough. I’ve enjoyed it for the little I tried.

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      98 months ago

      NewPipe lets you listen to youtube videos without the screen on (and also download them or just the audio).

      Probably the main thing I use

    • @peanutdust@lemm.ee
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      88 months ago

      redreader, newpipe, session messenger(needs repo thing from website), aurora store, simple gallery pro

    • @1984@lemmy.today
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      Newpipe in particular is super important. It’s a better YouTube app with more features and no ads.

      Sorry for not supporting Google, I know they need more money… /s

      • @Fisch@lemmy.ml
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        I prefer LibreTube because it doesn’t look outdated and it uses Piped, so you never actually connect to the YouTube servers and you can synchronize your subscriptions and playlists

        • @1984@lemmy.today
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          It’s a fantastic app. Remember to set your default YouTube links to open with it also, you can do that with android in app settings.

    • @gaael@lemmy.world
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      Pretty much all the basics are covered, here are some examples:

      • Newpipe for videos and music
      • FairEmail for email
      • Organic Maps for maps and routes
      • Aves Libre for gallery
      • lots of privacy-oriented instant messaging apps (I use DeltaChat)
      • Jerboa for lemmy
      • plethora of calendars, todo apps, calculators, keyboards…
      • some games

      And then of course all you power-ish user stuff (alternate launchers, clients for self-hosted clouds and stuff, terminal emulators…)

      • @PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone
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        28 months ago

        Worth noting while checking out Aves libre it seems the developer has renamed it to just Aves and continued updating.

        New to f-droid so if I have this wrong let me know

      • Cethin
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        58 months ago

        Thanks to US infrastructure I don’t need yet another map just for public transport! Thanks US government for looking out for us little people! (I really don’t think this is needed, but /s just in case.)

    • temptest [any]
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      28 months ago

      A lot of the utility is it having apps with similar capabilities but without the same kind of privacy invasions, and with better description of what anti-features an app has. So as far as ‘the average user’, I’d just say alternative apps (or even the same ones, if you’re already using FOSS apps) to the same ones they’d use on Play Store, and a few of the games.

  • Illecors
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    218 months ago

    Fdroid basic allows automatic updates!

    The guadian project repos are also preset, albeit not enabled by default.