In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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    18 hours ago

    Not all men backed the ugliness. (To lump them altogether is sexist.) The ones who didn’t should be supported.

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      17 hours ago

      I’m sure explaining not all men to them will turn this whole thing around.

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        17 hours ago

        I’m sure pulling an Idiocracy will turn this whole thing around.

        See how useful that is?

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        Because we all know the response to that is too many men? Right? But women voted against women, how do you fix that? How do you sit and blame all the men for your problems when it was also women who wanted these things to happen?

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            It’s kind of your own responsibility to be informed on who you are voting for… If you vote for someone you should understand what they have done and what they hope to do in the future…

            It’s not really the individuals fault that education standards have fallen, and more people every year are falling behind… Education has been gutted when we should be doing the opposite… And trump wants to further that by dismantling the department of education…

            Social media and the disturbing trend of not looking into or even reading about things you just read the headline of is another cause of lack of understanding.

            It’s on an individual to know and understand who they are voting for from actual legitimate sources that can be trusted and fact checked against other sources…

            But again who do you trust when any more it’s about who can get an article out faster than anyone else? Who cares if it’s not true your ad revenue is more important…

            But yeah it’s not the fault of an individual, everyone falls into the trap of believing something that isn’t true no fault of their own.

            But honestly, if you have no idea who trump is or what he is for after the last eight years of having to hear about him basically everywhere.

            Then yeah I guess how can you blame someone. Oh yeah I guess if they were somehow forced to by someone then sure…

            Otherwise yeah it’s on them and they made the choice without doing a good enough job of understanding who they voted for…

            Or they voted exactly who they wanted to vote for…

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      wHy WON’t ThESE Women wHO ARe beIng oppRESSeD And HAVInG tHEir rIghts erodeD sUPPort mEn LIke Me WHo aRE tHe rEaL VIcTImS aNd CleArlY so syMPaTHETic tO THEIR cAUSE???!111122345

      You are precisely the kind of insidious creep we want to avoid.

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        16 hours ago

        Who said women aren’t being oppressed? Who said that men are being oppressed? Who said I was a man?

        Sorry if you’ve been hurt, but that is no excuse for sexism. To be clear: lumping all men into a group is sexism. Grouping all people by some factor that is beyond their control is prejudice. It’s really as simple as that. Again, I’m sorry if you’ve been hurt, but that’s no excuse for that response.

        To repeat: the reality is that not all men back the ugliness that Trump and his supporters promote. To claim otherwise is to rob yourself of allies. It is self defeating.