One idea I have is completely overhauling how we approach crime like giving criminals a reason to take the way out of crime.

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    Regular crime is overwhelmingly the result of poor economic conditions. Govern well, uplift people’s living conditions and crime naturally fades.

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      Govern well, uplift people’s living conditions and crime naturally fades.

      I think you need to be a bit more specific abt the “govern well” bit.

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        Sorry I don’t have really have any super unique or sophisticated input to give on the topic at the moment lol. I simply wanted to state that I think crime is massively driven by economic factors and that the best to way combat it is to simply make genuine, effective efforts to improve people’s livelihoods.

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        People prefer the easier path, if it’s easier to be successful legally then people won’t turn to crime to maintain their goals. A government only need to focus on helping those worst off to reduce crime.

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          That’s a win for us gun rights community imo since why ban guns when you can simply fight the problem by its roots?

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    Crime is directly related to not necessarily poverty, but income inequality. So in a given area where class contradictions are intensified, there will be more crime.

    Also note that correlation is not causation. One theory regarding causation is that this is the fallout of COINTELPRO, when the CIA and local police had disrupted revolutionary movements to prevent unification against capitalism, through provoking infighting and promoting drug abuse.

    In other words, crime is artificially increased to create a lower class, and contradictions within the proletariat are exacerbated to prevent unity.

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      The other day, my buddy (who barely make more than minimum wage at a graveyard) was ranting on about how the people on welfare across the street are just on fucking welfare, taking from society and not giving nothing back.

      Here we had a guy below the poverty line, angry at the other dude below the poverty line, telling me these damn libs caused it. Absolutely insane how he can be all angry about the few million we put into welfare in here in canada, when billions are wasted on keeping him poor.

      If money was seconds, 1000$ would be a little over 15 minutes. 1 million dollars would be about 11 days. 1 billion dollars would be almost 32 YEARS! People are easily tricked and don’t understand the values at play, drive me insane. They should be angry at the rich and income inequality.

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        They’re willing to spend millions and billions to do this because it’s not their money, it’s yours.

        It’s taxpayer money used to create the reserve labour force, while capitalists benefit from it.

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    You’re on the right train of thought, crime goes down with better opportunities. That’s why marginalized minorities tend to have higher crime rates, not because their “race being inherently violent” like conservatives like to parrot, it’s simply because of their lack of economic opportunities.

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    Another factor to be considered is the proper knowledge of the gun owner about gun handling, like Switzerland has, if I’m not mistaken nearly 100% of the population owning guns on the account of their obligatory military service for 2 years for men and 1 year for women and at the end of it they take and rifle with them, so the proper training with the gun is likely a factor. That being said in the US I don’t see any short term solution other than stricter gun control,for there is a weird gun culture there that makes people fetishise their guns so much that they wanna create an opportunity to use them

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      Strict gun control would only empower the government and capitalists (strike breaking etc etc) against the working class

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        That’d be true if the people owning guns were ones that stood against the state, but if you look at the history of the US you’ll see that even where there was a more lax gun control the people who used it to stand against oppression like the black panthers where denied the right to own guns, so as I see the right to bear arms on the US is mostly used by people who echo the oppression of the capitalist system, and mass shooters, that’s where I stand from, being an outside observer from another country, so I might be missing a lot, but as I see the most oppressed are still the most killed by guns be them on the hands of citizen or policmen

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          Be that as it may, do you really think a public worker’s movement would be aided by only the military being armed? I see it as foolhardy to trade the access to weapons that would be needed in a revolution for some momentary safety. The reactionaries will always be armed. The difference is if we are armed or not

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            That’s what I said short term, I do thunk that an armed workforce would be a great boon but first of all the cost of weapons does block considerably the access of the workforce and what I see is not weapons going to the worker is the regular citizen becoming a parallel army in the reserve, with the current culture of the USA I think better gun control would save many lives, there is an argument to be made that once it gets restricted it wouldnt turn back and that I can see but right now with the popular revolution a seemingly far into the horizon it might not be a bad move to restrict weapons

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              I think the issue is it turning back will be near impossible. We would shoot ourselves in the future, in the foot over this and I don’t think that’s a good tradeoff