If something happened to my kid, and I was never reunited with them? Never given contact with them, never provided communication with their care takers?
You can bet violence would be the inevitable outcome.
1300 children havent been reunited because of incomplete documentation - that was by design - and now the government has the responsibility to protect the children from nefarious parties and verify identities of non-us citizens and their parents?
That’s the parents of 1300 children who are slowly losing their wits because they sought safe refuge from a country where if they didn’t escape, death was already inevitable.
Now, what do we all know about Facists? They need and enemy. Their entire existence is based around having an enemy. It’s easy to point to powerless minority groups and stoke nationalism through that, but invasions don’t occur to save lives or conquer land. They occur to give purpose to iron fist policies.
Especially useful is when the Enemies attack you. Unfortunately for the Facists the iron fisted policies enacted after 9/11 had the consequence of restricting the effectiveness of already radicalized groups, reducing their numbers and the usefulness of the Enemy. So what did Trump do? Instead of working on producing false flag attacks which is a hard sell to even his most devoted followers, why not create home grown enemies!
The absolute sick fucks they are. The people I see with a Trump sign on their lawn show me how many of these people there are. The way they dehuminize others really starts to make me think that there is an actual physiological difference between them and the rest of humanity.
They are fine with physical and psychological torture of humans. I wouldnt be surprised if it turns out they have reduced, damaged, or lack entirely the part of their brains that should house empathy.
Elián González is now an anti-USA politian in Cuba. And quite frankly, I don’t blame him. It’s pretty easy to see what will happen when you force a child to go through tramatic events resulting in the loss of family.
And the trump administration is 16-20 years after the Elián González situation happened. They could already see the results happen in real time by that point.
Long after this post is forgotten about by everybody, including me, we’re going to see some of these 1300 children today become anti-usa voices when they become adults.
And they’ll have fully justified reasons for thinking that way.
Pretty much every politician is anti US in Cuba. It’s a one party system and loyalty is the price for a paycheck.
Why would any Cuban politician be pro USA when said country is blocking every possibility of trade with other countries which results in food scarcity because Cuba is too small to do all production domestically and is therefore lacking in large scale farming equipment and fuel?
Because the ones here grew up hating those there and live in a state of fuck them.
@RemindMe@programming.dev 16 years
Unfortunately 1,300 still “so far”. People are ready to give him another crack at it.🤮
It’s actually still happening under Biden.
Got a source?
https://immigrantjustice.org/staff/blog/biden-administration-routinely-separates-immigrant-families
Other user posted this above
Shit. The ratchet system in effect in the most grim way possible.
Til Biden didn’t do anything to reunite the families and in fact continued separating families: https://immigrantjustice.org/staff/blog/biden-administration-routinely-separates-immigrant-families
This is not the same thing at all. Trump instituted a zero tolerance policy, separating any family caught crossing illegally with the stated intent to dissuade families from making the trip.
Normally (including under Biden) the government separates children from suspected human traffickers or members of gangs that engage in trafficking. This is not to deter families. It’s to protect children - sending a child back to Mexico with a human trafficker is an abhorrent thing to do.
Stop carrying water for Trump.
Standard Democrat fare - they’ll perpetuate the worst of the GOP nonsense, fix some of it, and generally be less terrible. Also see: Gitmo.
…but as long as the alternative is the GOP, who will make everything far worse far faster (to the point that they’re likely to end the moribund US democracy next term), you need to get out and vote for them up and down the ballot.
The democrats are following the law set up by the republicans underneath gwb.
Unless you want biden to act like a dictator, there isnt much he can do considering the state of the senate/house.
Yes - the Republicans instituted the bad thing, the Democrats perpetuated it. Obama had the White House , House , and Senate and didn’t close Gitmo as promised.
I’m in favour of Biden acting like a dictator if it’s to do things like restore the rule of law, stop torture, and right wrongs like separating kids from their families for their entire childhood. The kinds of consequences that make dictatorships bad. What’s the value of proceduralism if it not just fails to correct, but actively delivers those outcomes?
Neither party has made any effort to eliminate the unconstitutional Patriot Act either, instead, actually ramping it up.
Yep - there’s no shortage of examples - this is why I point to it as the unfortunate norm.
It’s a standard good cop, bad cop routine. They’re playing off each other to keep the people perpetually in conflict, and scared. Both sides are convinced that every election means the end of democracy if they lose, and neither side is in a position to demand change, instead desperately trying to cling to the remnants of their former liberties.
I agree with the sentiment in the sense that they have shared class interests, but the GOP wants, and will institute massive, sweeping change for the worse as the Dems deliver a mixed bag in broad defence of the status quo that benefits them.
When was the last time that the Dems undid something that the GOP did? They throw their hands in the air and go “it sucks that the GOP did that! Oh well!”. As far as actually enacting policies, there are few, and they’re far in-between, but they’re considerably better than what the GOP does. The Affordable Care Act comes to mind as a piece of positive legislation, but that was over a decade ago now.
Vote blue no matter who! Even when they’re basically holding your queer loved ones hostage.
When the alternative is having those loved ones denied medical care, locked up, or shuffled off to the camps, yes.
You don’t have to be happy about it, but you do have to keep the unabashed fascists out of power. There’s 1,458 other days in the election cycle to convince, cajole and bully the Democrats into being less bad.
Government acted with impunity here. Will anyone get held accountable for this?
Did Trump give them explicit permission to “lose” child or did somebody not do their job?
It was intentional, the goal was to permanently separate children from their families to deter immigrants and asylum seekers.
This is a LONG article, but extremely detailed with tons of interviews and documents to back it up like emails and memos obtained via FOIA requests: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/trump-administration-family-separation-policy-immigration/670604/
It’s also paywalled, but once archive.org comes back online you can find it there. I highly recommend reading the whole thing.
The main takeaway is that the family separation policy was pushed by Trump and his administration incessantly. It took a while to really start because various government officials were reluctant to do it, and kept trying to placate the White House by slow walking the whole thing.
At one point, government lawyers who process asylum claims realized that the separated children were being shipped away from the local holding facility without any documentation, effectively “losing” them in the system. The lawyers figured this was just a terrible error and began processing asylum claims by the parents faster. If they could get it done within a week or so, the children would still be held in the nearby facility and could be reunited with their parents.
The white house was furious and directed the holding facility to start “relocating” the children faster, so that they’d be lost in the system before the parents could be processed.
The cruelty is the point.
So crime happened and looks it was documented properly?
But perps will not be held accountable?
Welcome to the 21st century.
It was in the course of executing his duty. John Roberts says you can’t prosecute him for that. And if he marches them into ovens this time you can’t prosecute him for that either. The dream of Nixon and Roger Ailes has finally come to fruition. As Nixon said…
Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal", by definition.
The coup has already occurred. And everyone collectively yawned.
They will never find them again barring getting lucky with both the parents and the kids picking the right DNA testing company. At which point that company will sell its data to the U.S. government.
Ladies and gentlemen: the pro life party,.
