• Smacks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    There was an attempt at nation building and it didn’t go well. Afghanistan and the Middle East is a culturally complicated place, it’s mostly tribes and smaller villages with a lot of history. It’s hard to point fingers at the US for leaving when a decent chunk of the country either didn’t care, or didn’t want them there anymore.

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      Even if the US intentions were good (and they were not great, basically being revenge for 9/11), who wants to be ruled by a foreign invader?

      If some alien superpower invaded the USA tomorrow, gave them free healthcare, 40 days holiday a year from work, legalised abortion again and mountains of affordable housing in the places people actually wanted to live, they’d still fight back. Even if it meant things going back to how they were before.

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        11 months ago

        Bold of you to think people would fight back against that lol.

        That actually sounds incredible

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          Just like Afghans, many liked the US, the taliban didn’t. There’d be a percentage of the population fighting tooth and nail.

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            And it creates the question – what should the aliens do long term?

            If they leave, what do they owe those of us who liked them?

            I really struggle with this. I can’t say as an American that we don’t owe them anything. But I also can’t say that it’s our job to go back and invade once more. We’ve done that. I don’t know what changes we could make to change the outcome.

            Sorry for the sudden musings, haha

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          People won’t fight back against anything because they are morally opposed to fighting back, regardless of what’s actually happening.

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          11 months ago

          They would. Just point anyone they think deserves less then themselves and they Will fight tooth and nail. So so many americans will gladly cut off their nose to spite their face

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        11 months ago

        I would take that deal. All hail our Alien overlords. Now, the south would not be pleased … but they have a losing record in armed conflict.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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        11 months ago

        I would not fight that. I already think that we are ruled by outsiders (rich, geriatric boomers).

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          Most boomers are just who the oligarchs have pointed angry millennials at.

          They’ll watch you fight for crumbs while they scoff cake. This is Bumfights for them.

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      I mean, literally any other country in the world is welcome to step in and fix it. Imagine the bragging rights at the next UN summit. “We fixed Afghanistan!” No? No takers? Alright.

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        11 months ago

        As cynical as a take as that is, yeah national building hard espically out there. People will resist change, you have very little infrastructure to work with, and a poor little esucation population