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    Also lemmy.world is not the most stable instance and experiences a lot of downtime. My user experience got a lot better after I moved out of lemmy.world.

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      It experiences a lot of downtime because the alt right kids who got defederated keep using 4chans ddos tool to bring it down…

      It’s not going down from normal user load.

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          If you’re on that instance they make pinned posts pretty frequently where they explain all that…

          Do you want them to call everyone individually and let them know?

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          Yeah the whole E for effort thing isn’t going to get them far. I just left. I don’t think many people are leaving Lemmy at this point, but courting different instances is a wonderful thing for the strength of the system. I am strongly in the camp that there needs to be a universal tool for account migration though. This is getting tedious.

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      I’ve explicitly been using my beehaw.org account pretty much exclusively because of the constant DDOS attacks on lemmy.world.

      Kinda funny how their plan to seemingly kill Lemmy is just helping it stay decentralized by pushing people to other instances.

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        do you think i’d have a chance at getting in if for my application i just say i want to get away from lemmygrad and hexbear?

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        You can’t really kill a decentralized service without burning down the whole internet. Another way would be to offer a competing services, but that hasn’t killed e-mail yet.

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      For the record I never wanted to create an account on lemmy.world, but I ultimately did so because other instances including lemmy.ml were not operational when a mass of users moved on from reddit so I just settled for this one.

      The fediverse needs to address this without making it the users problem, not my fault shit don’t work, I’m just here for memes and all the porn 😎

      Edit: Lemmy didn’t have to recreate reddits shit formatting either

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    Sucks but if Lemmy.World is gonna be the “face” of Lemmy it’s probably best to keep the shadier sides of the fediverse out. Just to keep the damn lawyer trolls off our back.

    Plus it keeps the “uninitiated normies” out of the Piracy instance. At least until they know.

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      FWIW this is one of the most frequent communities I see while browsing. I don’t mind it but it’s definitely a bad look if they want lemmy.world to appeal to the everyman.

      I’ve noticed a lot more “normie” content in the past few weeks so it definitely seems like the site is attracting more than just techy people now.

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        Piracy not appealing to the everyman? With the relentless rise in the cost of living and with streaming services increasing costs and cracking down on password sharing, I don’t see many people turning up their nose at piracy these days.

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            I’m okay with that, people generally not inclined to pirate must not visit a pirated sub, by choice or by accident. They may get culture shock and mistake perfectly legal conversations for other things and make a false report.

            Those who want to pirate generally knows how to search for communities for piracy. No matter who’s blocking who, they’ll eventually find what they want. The block will act as a filter of some sorts.

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              I put quotes around it to imply I was using the term sarcastically because people who use it in earnest look like elitist douchebags.

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        Which was always going to happen if Lemmy is to grow. This is fine, decentralisation is what this is made for, so if you want a vanilla experience with only clean sfw content, you can register to instances A B or C, if you fancy some more open internet, then instances X Y or Z might be more for you.

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      Yeah, I’m fine with the admins using some due diligence. There is some wild s*** out there that no one needs to see terrible and grotesque without warning. The most recent example that I came across was AI generated porn of “jailbait.”

      Speaking only for myself but if content like that shows up in my feed I will not continue using Lemmy. So I am appreciative of the admins being proactive and if there’s something I want to find I’ll search for it but the example that I quoted showing up in my feed is absolutely unacceptable to me.

      I’m not saying that piracy rises to the level of the quoted example but I don’t manage the server and I’m not willing to manage a server so if there are people out there willing to do it to spare me from nefarious things then power to them. They have to do what’s right and legal.

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        Why don’t you just block the communities yourself?

        You have the ability to do that, but instead you’re demanding that the instance admins take the choice away from you?

        This is some nanny state shit. It’s like saying “I don’t want to see morally qiestionable things like drag shows, the government should ban them!” Like just block it and don’t fucking go there if you don’t want to see it. Don’t advocate for taking the choice away from everyone.

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    Hot take: .world and others banning/blocking /c/ is better for the fediverse and for piracy. It means less eyes on piracy discussions and incentivizes users to spread out to other instances instead of just all using .world.

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      Fantastic take. Imagine a conglomerate of smaller instances that largely make no waves and allow 70% of the community to just see what they want. Dare to dream.

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      It’s a great take and I hope they do continue to ban/block more controversial topics so people spread out more.

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    i feel like blocking of instances leads to worse echo chambers than subreddits themselves. We gonna have bubbles of federation networks that don’t federate with each other. E.g. lefties, righties, “dark web” illegal shit, kinky shit, and instances that federate with all of them will be blocked by other instances because “use my blacklist or get defederated”. This is gonna lead to hell for users having to create fifty accounts for each bubble. Aint nobody got time for that.

    i wish it remained a user’s option to block/unblock content they don’t/do want to see. Each instance could provide their “recommended” default list of enabled instances, and user can go and enable others, like how NSFW toggle works. Maybe group instances into categories with tags or something, like “porn”, “memes”, “tankies”, “nazis”, “warez”, etc

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      We’re gonna need a Lemmy client that can log into multiple accounts at the same time and display a combined feed of allof those accounts…

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      The big issue with that. Is where the host instance is located.

      If Lennyworld is located somewhere piracy will get them shut down. Federatng a pirate instance is a bad idea.

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        Hosting is the legal issue. Linking to illegal content that somebody else is hosting is much harder to tackle legally, which is why isohunt was around for so long despite being based in the US. IIRC they shut down not because they lost any lawsuits but because they just couldn’t afford the legal battle.

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      Most people will not put their time and energy into running an instance which is destined to become a fascist playground with policies like those. You might not like it but in this real world that we are all forced to live in, that is what those policies lead to.

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      So long as major instances continue to rely on blacklists rather than whitelists, that won’t be a problem for the hundreds of small instances.

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      You can discuss and promote piracy, but lemmy.world is the biggest instance so hosting links up pirated content will get them shut down. The post is 100% right, just make multiple accounts. You want the illegal stuff distributed. What’s great about Lemmy is you can still have other accounts on those networks.

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      The primary purpose of the defederation mechanism is not to block content from readers, it’s to prevent brigades. A big problem on Reddit is vote manipulation (not to mention shit stirrers showing up uninvited). On Reddit some mods would just ban everyone who ever posted in a subreddit (like T_D), defederation is essentially the same thing.

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        It’s for the person paying for the hosting and maintaining the server to decide what they want their server to do

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        Either way you call it, it’s someone else deciding for me

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          No it isn’t. You’ve got the whole Fediverse to choose from. That’s the whole fucking point.

          If you want every single decision to go your way, run your own instance. Otherwise, quit moaning and find an instance that suits you.

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          Live in someone’s house, then follow their rules. Otherwise buy your own house or find another house.

          That’s what I associate lemmy instances with. Anyways I’m glad that we are free to choose where we maintain our accounts. Unlike reddit wher we cannot even move in order to change the environment, cause it’s all under one management.

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    Holy fucking shit they’re blocking piracy? What a bunch of losers. Get off the anti-corporate platform built on copyleft principles if you have a problem with piracy.

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      I created an account today on lemm.ee because I thought defeterating from hexbear sucked, then there were others and today was the last straw, even though I don’t pirate. I didn’t leave reddit for more restrictive platform. Lemmy.world sucks balls.

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      Eh? It’s understandable. They shouldn’t be forced to deal with any legal issues that come with it.

      You can just use another instance that fits your needs, isn’t that the whole point of this decentralized model?

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        There are no legal issues. You can fucking talk about piracy completely legally. This is a moral position being taken under the excuse of legality by liberals who run their server with a strict political leaning, as demonstrated by their mass banning of socialists and defederation from every left wing space.

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          Hasn’t reddit already gotten into legal trouble multiple times regarding that sub? Even very recently with film piracy.

          And let’s not pretend these communities only ‘discuss’ piracy, as much as they try to keep it within that limit. These corporations wouldn’t care even if they did.

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            The idea that corporations will come after federated instances that aren’t even creating the posts instead of the source is nonsensical. Until the source is attacked there is literally no reason anyone should be concerned, and if the source is taken down then it won’t be on other instances anymore anyway.

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              The idea that corporations will come after federated instances that aren’t even creating the posts instead of the source is nonsensical

              Is it? Content from federated instances are cached on the instance itself too, no?

              I wouldn’t take the risk federating with legally questionable instances, and no one should have to. I’d just use an alt account for that on another instance that is federated, and I do.

              if the source is taken down then it won’t be on other instances anymore anyway.

              That doesn’t seem to be the case. vlemmy.net has gone down permanently it seems, and I can still access the content on there that were made while it was up from other instances.

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      Yes, because it’s illegal. If you’re going to be the biggest host you’re a bigger target which means you need to be more careful. What’s good about the fediverse is that you have distributed instances so smaller ones can support things like piracy, and if a small one gets taken down there will be others in its place. The same game of whack a mole is what has allowed torrent tracker sites to exist. If there was one centralized torrent tracker site it would get shut down.

      What the post says is exactly right. You’d be an idiot to have one account for your normal usage and piracy usage. In your normal usage you’ll inevitably leak personally identifiable information. Having multiple accounts and multiple instances is the exactly right thing to do to keep piracy alive.

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        There is nothing illegal about talking about piracy. Get a grip. This is entirely about taking a moral position, because the server is run by liberals with a clear and obvious political position, as demonstrated by their mass banning of socialists.

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          They’re not just talking about piracy, they’re linking to it. There’s piracy subs on Reddit too and they’re allowed because they are very careful to only talk about it and not link to it, and they’re severely gimped because of that. What’s great about lemmy is that instances that are on with the risk can do so without having to follow anyone else’s rules and users can access it by simply having another account.

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              I think the media companies have been abusing the DMCA to go after people who link to pirated material. also, I’m starting to suspect world is trying to get funding because they’re trying to “clean” the site up in exactly the way banks/VCs require for loans. it’s a conservative interpretation of the law, especially the recent rounds that purported to go after human trafficking but actually forced major websites to take down anything remotely objectionable.

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                  Wasn’t the admin of .world one of the ones who went into the NDA’d cocksucking meetups with Meta?

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                I’m starting to suspect world is trying to get funding because they’re trying to “clean” the site up in exactly the way banks/VCs require for loans.

                If that’s true they’re idiots. It’s not even fucking necessary. All the social media VCs deliberately take the most neutral stance possible for the LARGEST possible userbases. Did reddit? Did any other social media site do that? Fuck no they didn’t. They viewed them as user sources and valuable towards growth. It’s literally the opposite of what every VC funded group does.

                The cleanup only happens before an IPO. During VC funding companies are always as free as they can possibly be.

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                  yeah, that’s the part that confuses me. whatever it is, it’s another stupid decision in a series of stupid decisions, and hopefully it just kills the instance.

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                “Wow, Blockbuster sucks because I have to drive to a physical store. I know, let’s open up another brick-and-mortar store that’s exactly like Blockbuster minus the name recognition. That’ll show 'em!”

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        Reddit never had any issues with r/Piracy. They don’t host anything, they just refer to websites that host stuff. If anything they’d help companies to discover what websites they should take down.

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    Facilitating Piracy no matter how you put it is wrong and illegal, it is wrong and illegal to support people who do it.

    Remember Netizen, when you’re pirating Disney, you’re downloading communism! programming-communism

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        Can literally have the spores shipped to your door for shockingly cheap so long as you press the “I pwomise not to do what the link you have here says cuz that leads to mushies” box

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      Welp, I guess that’s it for me, I’m not looking to have my hand held while I access information. I can decide for myself what is and is not acceptable on my feed. Maybe .world is just feeling the crunch and they need to thin out the numbers? It’s a shame either way.

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        But that’s why federation is great. If you don’t like how one instance handles stuff you can move to any other instance that suits you or even host your own.

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        They just don’t have the money to pay the lawyers that you need if you want to host that kind of content without shutting the whole thing down to move it on occasion.

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        Same this explains why I haven’t seen any shrooms posts. If I wanted to be treated like a child I’d use Reddit

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    Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can’t subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.

    Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that’s the whole idea of federation.

    De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.

    Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That’s why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.

    Lemmy’s strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.

    De-federation is bad.

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      defederation is good for nazi and CSAM instances. no one should touch either with a 10ft pole. there’s absolutely no reason to give them a larger platform.

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          “CSAM instances” <– Pretty sure any publicly facing instances with this problem would be tackled by law enforcement pretty quickly.

          as far as I’ve heard, they’re still up and major instances are still federated with them.

          “Nazi instances”< – These ones will likely de-federate themselves from the wider federated web, they can’t handle a broad range of perspectives well.

          this is a deep misunderstanding of how far-right groups operate. they actively seek connection with the wider community because it presents them a chance to recruit and they’re numbers get decimated when they’re deplatformed. offering them a base of users to proselytize to only benefits them.

          Social media has enabled these groups to both silo themselves and get promoted to users site-wide

          yes precisely

          This method of content promotion is responsible for the explosion of online hate content in the last decade

          this has a deeper material reason underlying it. it’s got more to do with economic decay and the lack of prospects people face than the algorithms. we saw the same thing early last century. far-right ideology explodes in popularity when the left fails to make the case for a more equitable distribution of resources and because our oligarchs fund them to an obscene degree – minor fascists with a hundred followers on social media will receive hundreds of thousands of dollars in funding (cf Ali Alexander). fascist ideology spreads because it poses scapegoats for the problems in society.

          Nazis had plenty of websites in the 90 and early 2000’s but they didn’t get much traction with them because Facebook wasn’t forcing them into your home feed

          yes, precisely. if normal instances federate with the nazi ones, this won’t be true any longer because their content WILL flood the feeds of many people. this will have disastrous consequences for lemmy as a platform.

          I really don’t have a problem with these sites existing, people should be free to have their own disgusting racist thoughts and share them with their own little chat rooms and forums and the like.

          I do as me and mine belong to groups they target. if they’re allowed to rise to accumulate any power, it will spell death for us. there have already been multiple attempts in the US to organize pograms against trans people, as an example.

          And they should be ruthlessly mocked and kicked out of every other space they could possibly go to.

          inshallah

          however, I’d like to point out that 4chan originally started making memes to mock the fascists – their use of irony turned over time into unironic fascism and they became a hotbed for neo-fascists.

          Again, using the e-mail example, I can get an email from whitepowerwebsite as a gmail user. That’s not google giving them a platform, it’s just a neutral protocol for online communication (e-mail) working in a federated state as it’s meant to

          email is a bad example because it only provides point-to-point communication, unless you join a mailing list. social media is different – views get broadcast to the wider public on a given platform. federating with nazis allows them to broadcast their views and create a sense that their vision of the world is actually what everyone else believes. exploding-heads is federated with lemmy.world and the consequence is that many users have left lemmy.world specifically to get away from the fascists dumping their disgusting worldview onto the platform.

          Gmail isn’t expected to police the entirety of e-mail, the legal liabilities lie with the sender and receiver.

          they actually do have liability under laws like the DMCA, SESTA/FOSTA, and the new slate of laws recently passed to go after sex traffickers (and in reality a wide host of “undesirable” content more generally). but that aside, I’m not talking about legal liability. I’m talking about the responsibility the people running these instances have to not help build fascism. it’s an ethical/political responsibility, not a legal one.

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            You are right about worsening economic conditions leading to the rise of far right movements. I was more speaking to their digital footprint. If you remember early Facebook, it was nothing like what people use today.

            yes, precisely. if normal instances federate with the nazi ones, this won’t be true any longer because their content WILL flood the feeds of many people. this will have disastrous consequences for lemmy as a platform.

            If lemmy A is federated w lemmy B (the nazi one), it means:

            • Users on Lemmy A can subscribe to communities and users on Lemmy B and vice versa
            • Users on Lemmy A can comment on communities on Lemmy B and vice versa

            It does not mean:

            • Posts from lemmy B show up on Lemmy A (except in the “global” view on main page, which is non-default, and likely won’t show up their either due to massive downvoting). I would imagine, in time, that the global tab actually gets entirely removed since you have a problem where a single lemmy instance can massively inflate their vote count to make their votes the top voted posts across the whole network. You can’t enforce instances to follow the rules on this and you can’t audit their compliance. There are certainly some solutions to this involving blockchain but that’s an aside and those are at least a few years away afaik. 90% of users never do the “non-default” option in whatever app they’re in.

            So this flooding the feeds scenario, I just don’t see it. In user-moderated platforms, vocal minorities don’t show up anywhere, they get moderated out basically automatically except in their own little enclaves. There is no scenario in which Lemmy as a federation provides a good platform for them (outside of their own nazi-friendly instance), because Lemmy doesn’t work like other social media works.

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              In user-moderated platforms, vocal minorities don’t show up anywhere, they get moderated out basically automatically except in their own little enclaves.

              I will take this to mean communists make up a soft majority on lemmy given the number of complaints about commie posting keep popping up on the major comms lenin-laugh

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      While I agree with you, I’d really love the possibility of block whole instances, just for me. I don’t want my instance from defederating from much, but I’d like for example to block all the porn without having to find myself some christian lemmy instance to move to lol

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        You would be free to do that, just as you can make filters in gmail. But the difference is who gets to make that decision.

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      Nah I gotta disagree on this one. I specifically joined this instance as a welcoming space. I’m glad we’re defederated from the tankie and far right instances. I want none of that here. You can feel differently for the “main” instances or whatever you want to call them, but for me, defederation is amazing.

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      If someone’s email domain is @ihateminorities.com, I’d say that’s pretty fair grounds for blocking it.

      There are some instances that actively promote hateful or extremist content, and exist for the purpose of hosting it. There are others that do not actively support that content but do allow it, anywhere, making blocking one community not enough. Defederation is an important tool and should be used wisely.

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      If an instance is merely blocked, does that mean all content produced by that instance, or by a Lemmy.World user using that instance, is strictly not stored on Lemmy.World servers?

      Otherwise there might still be liability. Also, in the US you don’t even have to do anything illegal to be the target of a lawsuit—distancing from piracy is a practical defense against the cost of legal proceedings, even if it’s technically legal.

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    I think lemmy.world is about to be rudely made aware of how many pirates were on their site.

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    The only thing that makes data useful to humanity is the fact that it can be copied - not copying data is unethical.

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    I have created my own instance. With blackjack! And hookers, err, NSFW.

    I found a cheap VPS and the easy_deploy script from git, that’s how it started. And for 10 €/month I’ll keep it going with a user count of 1.

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      is that considered best practice ?

      i’m not sure how any of this is supposed to work or if as a user i am supposed to care.

      i’ve budgeted next month to pay the maintainer of the thingy that i am thingy-ing and hopefully on a monthly basis. but is the end game for users to run their own instances ?

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        It’s the same as hosting your own email server. Yes it’s “best practice” to host your own, but there’s updates, bug workarounds, certificates, etc etc that makes it easier to use someone else’s server. In the end it’s a personal choice.

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          Like hosting your own email server, if you also copy everyone else’s emails to your server for the heck of it.

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        The end game is to either run your own instance, or find an instance that is run by an admin with the same mindset as you might have.

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          Or use multiple accounts on different instances that represent your different interests. Like maybe you have a “news & shitposting” account, and another “programming and piracy” one, etc. And ensure each account is on an instance that supports the necessary federations to support that.

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          or find an instance that is run by an admin with the same mindset as you might have.

          I found one that apparently does for me, but then that mindset is “let me see everything, and leave what I want to view up to me”.

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            That’s a pretty common mindset amongst small instance runners I think, including the one I’m on. Only caveat, this instance doesn’t allow NSFW posting (viewing is fine), and has a pretty vague ban policy lmao

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          None yet. When I came here I had been away from reddit for about seven months looking for a place to put poems and homer stuff. Really this conversation has informed me onto what exactly is going on here in the fedvee.

          i don’t use reddit/facebook/twitter/insta/toktik/et cetera. I am just looking for a mostly texty experience without me having to run an instance of anything with mild socializing on other instances.

          As for how much I have to a “give” part of my monthly budget that last month was a give to the food bank. it revolves around the food bank, one of the three local homeless shelters, the local animal companion welfare places and then generally in August I buy myself a LEGO set for when the rain starts instead of giving because I can be a selfish fuck.

          i have added this to the “give” part of my budget with a note to do it for sure right after an upgrade or major outage because my instance admin will prolly want some love after that.

          that is my current strategy for not wearing out instance welcome.

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      I would do it too if there is a way to monetize it just to pay the VPS costs.

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    Anyone know of a good/current breakdown of the available instances? I landed on LW during the reddit exodus, and so far I’ve been happy here - haven’t felt the itch to relapse back to reddit or the need to find a new home on the fed… even this piracy thing isn’t a deal breaker for me personally since I don’t really engage in that content anyway - but on principle I dislike that it’s been blocked.

    Despite all that, I wouldn’t mind poking my head around just to see what’s up, and maybe find my nice little niche, but I don’t know the best way to actually go about navigating the fed.

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      Not exactly what you asked for but since you seem to care about it, you can use https://fba.ryona.agency/ to see what instances are blocked by what instances and vice versa. Here are the instances LW blocks for example.

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        Good resource for metrics! I’d really love some more qualitative information though - like by metrics alone, exploding.heads looks pretty decent; but I know just from hanging around here for the past month or so that it’s a hive of neonazis and definitely NOT somewhere I’d want to spend any time. Also info like which instances block / are blocked by the one in question; compatibility with mobile apps or quality of mobile website… shit like that. Would have been awesome to have a guide like that when I joined up as a brand-newbie; but even after having my feet in the water for a bit, I’m kinda lost on where to go from here.

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      I like kbin for the sorting algorithm and the website UI, but mostly use lw because of jerboa

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      I’m trying to get Lemmings.world more popular, so feel free to join! It’s well maintained, planned to be running long-term and each defederation is carefully considered. So far only instances that pretty much exist to harass other people have been blocked. Until some lawyer officially contacts me about removing piracy, I don’t plan on doing so.

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        Defederation because of harassment seems excessive, surely one can just mute a user? Not sure if I’d be comfortable with your defedation policy. It’s one thing to defederate from definitely-illegal-content like CSAM, it’s another thing to defederate because feelings were hurt.