i didn’t watch the debate, and i won’t watch the debate. i know biden’s a walking corpse. but i would literally vote for a dead chimpanzee’s excised brain tumor before trump. no single “debate” performance will change that
edit: it’s amazing to me, how so many people think they’re accomplishing a single goddamn thing by not voting LOL this is exactly the “thoughts and prayers” the GOP throws out at every school shooting: useless
Doubling down on homophobia and actual antisemitism. Classic
Isreal is an appendage of US hegemony and its foreign policy. The US is in charge not the other way around. The claim that Isreal calls the shots (or gets her dick sucked) to the US is an antisemitic trope that goes back to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Don’t do it.
Libs love saying blank sucks blanks cock. It is meant in a perjorotive way. It means it is degrading and bad to be the one sucking cock. Because liberals live within an ideology that is both patriarchal and heteronormative we know what you mean when you say that. We don’t tolerate it, no matter how cute your bullshit rationalization is when you try to double down on it.
If you don’t mean to be homophobic or antisemitic GOOD! Just accept that those statements are, and don’t make them again and you’ll be better for it. Living in ideology creates blind spots whatever your intentions, this is a chance to learn. Or you could be a real and double down again and pretend I’m a child that doesn’t know what they’re talking about
sucking cock doesn’t mean you’re gay, unless you think america (and israel) is definitively MALE, and saying israel gets her dick sucked does NOT = antisemitism
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I don’t care what the context is but saying “I’m not homophobic, the US is sucking Israel’s feminine penis and Israel getting her girlcock sucked isn’t antisemitic” is a wild thing to say and you should log off in shame for this monstrous birth of an image.
Agreed. That is a sentence someone thought of with a brain and typed with fingers and I’m pretty certain you’d never find anything like it anywhere else.
Wtf are you babbling about you dipshit genocide lover? “uNlesS yOu tHinK iS dEfINiTiVeLY mALe” you know perfectly well your usage was homophobic, otherwise you wouldn’t have used the insult in the first place you dumb fuck
Also goes without saying for anyone who’s not a .zip cockroach; the US runs the show in Israel, not the other way around, try to catch up chud
nice try though. i have to say this sub is full of passionate people, even though mostly children
top priority is get republicans (fascists) out of power at the federal and local level. until that happens, there will be no discussion, no debate, and if they win this year, no VOTING at all. you think the genocide is bad with biden? LOL just google some of the things trump has said about how to deal with pro-palestine protesters
There’s nothing more Biden could’ve done to help Israel kill Palestinians than what he’s done in the past 8 months. There is physically no way that the genocide is gonna “get worse under Trump.” We’re already giving bombs and money to Israel faster that they can use them, and there is no act of depravity that will turn either the Democratic or Republican parties away from unrelenting support of the genocide.
You want to come up with a line of reasoning that absolves you for cheerleading for genocide, but history will show that every American that voted for either one of these geriatric demons was more interested in maintaining their treats than applying pressure to their political establishment to end the genocide. You’re no better than a German cheering on the Freikorps, and asking the ghosts of the dead communists to voot against Hitler.
I’m simply pointing out the idiocy in you literally doing the ‘99% hitler v 100% hitler argument’
By all means, get all self righteous and sanctimonious about people not voting for a guy who enacted a border shutdown bill, who has literally circumvented Congress to run guns to Israel, and countless other atrocities
Let me know where that ‘lesser evilism’ gets you; you’ll be back here in four years again. Every four years.
vote on your “principles” comrade (aka sit on your ass and don’t vote for shit)
lmao
I donate to groups abroad to help negate the damage your guy does while in office, and I volunteer my time to help as well. But you’re really telling on yourself here by thinking ‘voting’ is the only thing that makes a difference here. Why are you even here and not on Reddit in your insular, liberal echo chamber? You clearly are only after that.
That’d be tight. Then I wouldn’t have to hear about American election every 2 years because your cycles last so.fucking long they neve seem to end and the result would be the same anyway
How do you get republicans (fascists) out of power at the federal level when Democrats at the federal level are friends with many republicans (fascists), covet republican (fascist) votes, and openly advocates having a strong republican (fascist) party? You’re saying we should get rid of fascists by voting for the people who help fascism?
You’re right. We need to get rid of fascists who commit genocide, sign the most draconian anti immigration bill in decades, crack down violently on students, repeal abortion protection, extend mass surveillance, fuel racist retoric, commit genocide, criminalize homelessness, allow destruction of the environment, profit of horrible wars, commit genocide, create a permanent underclass, use slave labor, commit genocide and commit genocide.
What a tepid turd of a defense for supporting genocide. Voting for genocide means you support it, by doing so you legitimise and empower Biden to ignore calls for action. Giving your vote unconditionally is bad bargaining.
So you’re saying the Democratic Party will openly support Trump’s Gaza policy, and the media, and the EU, they’re all gonna fall behind Trump and sing his praises as he bombs Gaza, is that seriously your claim?
And there are many like you who will follow suit. But there are also many who simply won’t take time out of their day to vote if they don’t feel good about who they are voting for.
The current strategy is to threaten and blackmail (project 2025, supreme court, Roe v Wade) potential voters, which I think will backfire, cause people to disengage, and depress turnout even further.
I personally will not be voting for either candidate, and especially not Biden, because of his enthusiastic support for and participation in genocide.
Why is that a problem? Voting doesn’t seem to improve anyone’s situation, change anything, or stop Americans from committing crimes against humanity. What is it’s purpose?
you should stick around on Hexbear and from time to time and do the “Serfdance” you do so splendid here …
Its a Good Bit, and also it should fullfill you aswell. After all beeing a proffessional Sexworker , you will do what ever the Client wishes and you will not question the Client.
Your Client , kinda wishes for our “votes” does he not ?
i should have said “any republican” instead of trump. i’m not ranking them. republicans and their project 2025 will end this country. it’s already begun with the corrupt scotus’s continuous evisceration of settled cases.
fuck trump, fuck W, and fuck every R candidate and every R voter
Do you think it will if you do? How does kicking the can down the road another four years help anything? These past four years led us right back to where we were in 2016, and 2020.
seriously? “kicking the can” is worse than having another trump presidency? ok… do what you will. i hope you feel good about yourself, voting against biden once we’re living under a textbook definition of dictatorship
I’m going to disagree with my fellow Hexbear above and state that we’re not even kicking the can with Biden. The progression towards fascism doesn’t pause when a Democrat is in the chair. It continues the same just with different abstractions as the reasoning.
This exact thing happened under Trump. He fired people and kept a tighter inner-circle. If you’re really honest you’ll find Biden doing a lot of the same stuff Trump did.
We were told to vote for Biden last time to avoid a genocide (✖️) to get kids out of cages (✖️) to stop the border wall (✖️) to stop Trumps racist immigration policy (✖️) to protect queer people (✖️) to protect abortion rights (✖️) to take climate seriously (✖️) to handle covid (✖️) to “believe science” (✖️) to have competent foreign policy (✖️) to stop the polices violent handling of protestors (✖️) to defund the police or at least stop giving them more money (✖️)
Voting for a democrat is just, at best, voting for last elections republican, but without public opposition. Voting legitimises power and a vote for Biden makes him believe he’s right to ignore his promises and instead go full on police state.
Now we’re being browbeat with the threat of “democracy being destroyed” by a man Biden has had 4 years to do something about, yet hadn’t.
why dont your guys execute every single republican politician, if they are seeking to destroy democracy, they need to be destroyed before they win right
Do you have a solution that doesn’t require Democrats to win control of the Executive and the Legislature in every American election for the rest of time?
I thought liberals tended to oppose single party political systems.
“we have to vote for the senile genocider who keeps giving more money to the military and police forces who would violently crush any proletarian revolution.”
What about Project 2025 are you concerned about specifically, that is an achievable goal? Besides the whole “replace everyone in all parts of government with a 19 year old groyper” part which the GOP has been trying to do for forever anyway, pretty much all of Project 2025 is what Biden is already doing. Ending asylum and deporting everyone? Check. Arresting dissenters? Check. Blank check to Israel and more funding to prisons, the MIC, all the rotten aspects of America? Check. Limiting access to healthcare for trans people? Check. Restricting abortion? Check. Dismantling climate legislation? Check. Busting unions? Check.
Only thing that’s actually different here is that Dems do it behind your back while Republicans have a base with enough lead in their brains to think those are good things.
Look like somebody doesn’t know they’re in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
Although tbf, you do know since you literally said you would vote for a chimpanzee, which demonstrates how much electoral power Americans actually have in the system. Maybe the Dems will run a brain-in-a-jar next time around, probably easier to control!
Stop being hysterical, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Yeah, I guess it is. Would you vote for trump or bad thing? Would you vote for biden or bad thing? Would you vote for biden or bad thing if bad thing if bad thing wasn’t going to murder teh 200,000-300,000 people Biden murders every time he’s in the white house?
What a weasely little edit. If you have something to say, then say it to all the people who rebuked you. You won’t because you have no arguments, you’re just repeating talking points from the echo chamber that is your empty world.
You accomplish nothing by voting except empowering a genocide.
i didn’t watch the debate, and i won’t watch the debate. i know biden’s a walking corpse. but i would literally vote for a dead chimpanzee’s excised brain tumor before trump. no single “debate” performance will change that
edit: it’s amazing to me, how so many people think they’re accomplishing a single goddamn thing by not voting LOL this is exactly the “thoughts and prayers” the GOP throws out at every school shooting: useless
enjoy your dictatorship comrades!
incidentally, how do i block an entire instance?
Don’t give a mandate to genocide.
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Homophobic and antisemitic. Classic
nah it’s just bottom-phobia unless you left something else out of the quote.
That is way better than their defense lol
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Doubling down on homophobia and actual antisemitism. Classic
Isreal is an appendage of US hegemony and its foreign policy. The US is in charge not the other way around. The claim that Isreal calls the shots (or gets her dick sucked) to the US is an antisemitic trope that goes back to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Don’t do it.
Libs love saying blank sucks blanks cock. It is meant in a perjorotive way. It means it is degrading and bad to be the one sucking cock. Because liberals live within an ideology that is both patriarchal and heteronormative we know what you mean when you say that. We don’t tolerate it, no matter how cute your bullshit rationalization is when you try to double down on it.
If you don’t mean to be homophobic or antisemitic GOOD! Just accept that those statements are, and don’t make them again and you’ll be better for it. Living in ideology creates blind spots whatever your intentions, this is a chance to learn. Or you could be a real
and double down again and pretend I’m a child that doesn’t know what they’re talking about
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I don’t care what the context is but saying “I’m not homophobic, the US is sucking Israel’s feminine penis and Israel getting her girlcock sucked isn’t antisemitic” is a wild thing to say and you should log off in shame for this monstrous birth of an image.
I second this. Its a work of art
Sucking Israel’s gock since 2017
Agreed. That is a sentence someone thought of with a brain and typed with fingers and I’m pretty certain you’d never find anything like it anywhere else.
You really are a stupid one lmao
Oh they understand. They’re just a
so they think its okay
Wtf are you babbling about you dipshit genocide lover? “uNlesS yOu tHinK iS dEfINiTiVeLY mALe” you know perfectly well your usage was homophobic, otherwise you wouldn’t have used the insult in the first place you dumb fuck
Also goes without saying for anyone who’s not a .zip cockroach; the US runs the show in Israel, not the other way around, try to catch up chud
Not familiar with .zip until this asshole. What’s up with that instance?
Just a typical libhole…
Most stunning reversal yet seen on lemmy
Lib uses a homophobic trope antisemitically, and then tries to WELL ACKSHUALLY abouthow it was… trans inclusive?
You should not be posting through this, my comrade
honestly how am i supposed to talk to any liberal ever again when i know that they think shit like this
With severe disdain, extreme caution and a readiness to dunk
Honestly fuck liberals lol
So what do you propose we do?
top priority is get republicans (fascists) out of power at the federal and local level. until that happens, there will be no discussion, no debate, and if they win this year, no VOTING at all. you think the genocide is bad with biden? LOL just google some of the things trump has said about how to deal with pro-palestine protesters
There’s nothing more Biden could’ve done to help Israel kill Palestinians than what he’s done in the past 8 months. There is physically no way that the genocide is gonna “get worse under Trump.” We’re already giving bombs and money to Israel faster that they can use them, and there is no act of depravity that will turn either the Democratic or Republican parties away from unrelenting support of the genocide.
You want to come up with a line of reasoning that absolves you for cheerleading for genocide, but history will show that every American that voted for either one of these geriatric demons was more interested in maintaining their treats than applying pressure to their political establishment to end the genocide. You’re no better than a German cheering on the Freikorps, and asking the ghosts of the dead communists to voot against Hitler.
Ah yes, I forgot the solution to ending an ongoing genocide is to vote for the president carrying it out
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I’m simply pointing out the idiocy in you literally doing the ‘99% hitler v 100% hitler argument’
By all means, get all self righteous and sanctimonious about people not voting for a guy who enacted a border shutdown bill, who has literally circumvented Congress to run guns to Israel, and countless other atrocities
Let me know where that ‘lesser evilism’ gets you; you’ll be back here in four years again. Every four years.
lmao
I donate to groups abroad to help negate the damage your guy does while in office, and I volunteer my time to help as well. But you’re really telling on yourself here by thinking ‘voting’ is the only thing that makes a difference here. Why are you even here and not on Reddit in your insular, liberal echo chamber? You clearly are only after that.
Ripbozo
Heaven just got a new Reply Guy
Are you still out here claiming that Isreal controls the US?
RemindMe! 4 years
That’d be tight. Then I wouldn’t have to hear about American election every 2 years because your cycles last so.fucking long they neve seem to end and the result would be the same anyway
Listen here Jack, if I’m going to support a one-party state it’s not going to be one made up of a bunch of corporate liberals.
If you believe this, then why is Trump allowed to run at all?!?! Why aren’t there calls to outlaw the republican party?
How do you get republicans (fascists) out of power at the federal level when Democrats at the federal level are friends with many republicans (fascists), covet republican (fascist) votes, and openly advocates having a strong republican (fascist) party? You’re saying we should get rid of fascists by voting for the people who help fascism?
Nothing could possibly go wrong doing that. No historical precedent for that being a bad idea
You’re right. We need to get rid of fascists who commit genocide, sign the most draconian anti immigration bill in decades, crack down violently on students, repeal abortion protection, extend mass surveillance, fuel racist retoric, commit genocide, criminalize homelessness, allow destruction of the environment, profit of horrible wars, commit genocide, create a permanent underclass, use slave labor, commit genocide and commit genocide.
you are a genocidal freak and should die
What a tepid turd of a defense for supporting genocide. Voting for genocide means you support it, by doing so you legitimise and empower Biden to ignore calls for action. Giving your vote unconditionally is bad bargaining.
I don’t know what you said but whatever it was if you vote for either of these people you ARE endorsing genocide.
Every single death that happens after this vote, you voted for. You knew what they would do and you endorsed it, you gave them a mandate for it.
So you’re saying the Democratic Party will openly support Trump’s Gaza policy, and the media, and the EU, they’re all gonna fall behind Trump and sing his praises as he bombs Gaza, is that seriously your claim?
If a dead chimpanzee’s excised brain tumor qualifies for President then maybe this shit hole country shouldn’t exist.
Nuke amerikkka total westerner death
And there are many like you who will follow suit. But there are also many who simply won’t take time out of their day to vote if they don’t feel good about who they are voting for.
The current strategy is to threaten and blackmail (project 2025, supreme court, Roe v Wade) potential voters, which I think will backfire, cause people to disengage, and depress turnout even further.
I personally will not be voting for either candidate, and especially not Biden, because of his enthusiastic support for and participation in genocide.
don’t worry, if trump wins, there will be no more voting
Sounds like a very important election.
Democrats should probably run someone not alienating constituents whose vote he relies on.
They should also probably run someone who doesn’t make everyone who watches that debate start thinking “mabie we need to 25th amendment this guy”.
this country will get whatever tf it deserves
We deserve far worse than Trump.
Death to America.
Great argument to vote for noone
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Why is that a problem? Voting doesn’t seem to improve anyone’s situation, change anything, or stop Americans from committing crimes against humanity. What is it’s purpose?
That’s what they said in 2016, too.
who’s “they” and please link where “they” said that
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/04/if-donald-trump-wins-new-age-endarkenment
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-american-democracy-could-break-down-214383/
https://youtu.be/_hsi-qvFE4M
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/03/17/if-no-one-else-stops-trump-the-electoral-college-still-can-its-in-the-constitution/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/21/us/politics/campaign-election-trump-clinton.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-is-a-threat-to-the-west-as-we-know-it-even-if-he-loses/2016/11/04/a8dc9100-a2cc-11e6-a44d-cc2898cfab06_story.html
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/opinion/how-you-can-fight-donald-trump-right-now.html
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/09/etrump/JPOQJZK9hUBdBx5rdPkWFK/story.html
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/donald-trump-and-the-authoritarian-temptation/
https://www.ft.com/content/743d91b8-df8d-11e5-b67f-a61732c1d025
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/why-democrats-fear-donald-trump-n526416
https://www.vox.com/world/2016/10/26/13412050/donald-trump-rigged-elections-violence
https://time.com/4535292/donald-trump-black-slaves/
https://stanfordmag.org/contents/should-we-abolish-the-electoral-college
Of course, not all was doom and gloom, some folks said Donald Trump would just be a regular shitty president (aka the truth): https://www.newsweek.com/2016/03/25/world-under-president-donald-trump-437158.html
ok. they said that. i’m saying it again.
'THIS TIME FOR REAL, TRUST ME FAM"
Cmon, .zip user, be serious
you should stick around on Hexbear and from time to time and do the “Serfdance” you do so splendid here …
Its a Good Bit, and also it should fullfill you aswell. After all beeing a proffessional Sexworker , you will do what ever the Client wishes and you will not question the Client. Your Client , kinda wishes for our “votes” does he not ?
So why should believe it, when it has a proven track record of being hyperbole?
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Lol. Such a fucking corncob
shitlibs like you.
oh, ok. well ancaps like you said you’re all stupid
I’m a communist.
Lol, lmao even. You’re an absolute blockhead
10 seconds on Google https://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/25/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-democracy/index.html
From
an idea, a world-historical heroine, light itself herself!
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why are you unable to demand something from your Master? Even in “Hypothetical Thought” ?
“Traditionally” does the concept of “earning a Vote” says somethign for you ?
Death to America
Promise?
I’m curious. Where does George W rank relative to Trump for you, was he better or worse
i should have said “any republican” instead of trump. i’m not ranking them. republicans and their project 2025 will end this country. it’s already begun with the corrupt scotus’s continuous evisceration of settled cases.
fuck trump, fuck W, and fuck every R candidate and every R voter
Maybe we should not have a political system that one party can apparently singlehandedly end?
do you think that might happen by not voting for biden?
Do you think it will if you do? How does kicking the can down the road another four years help anything? These past four years led us right back to where we were in 2016, and 2020.
If I saw a person as an existential threat to my government, I never would have funded their primary effort in the first place.
seriously? “kicking the can” is worse than having another trump presidency? ok… do what you will. i hope you feel good about yourself, voting against biden once we’re living under a textbook definition of dictatorship
I’ve actually been voting for Trump my entire life, an infinite number of times, by never voting in a US election.
I’m going to disagree with my fellow Hexbear above and state that we’re not even kicking the can with Biden. The progression towards fascism doesn’t pause when a Democrat is in the chair. It continues the same just with different abstractions as the reasoning.
This exact thing happened under Trump. He fired people and kept a tighter inner-circle. If you’re really honest you’ll find Biden doing a lot of the same stuff Trump did.
(this is a true and correct take)
It’s more like “kicking the can uphill and then the can rolls back down to our feet.”
We were told to vote for Biden last time to avoid a genocide (✖️) to get kids out of cages (✖️) to stop the border wall (✖️) to stop Trumps racist immigration policy (✖️) to protect queer people (✖️) to protect abortion rights (✖️) to take climate seriously (✖️) to handle covid (✖️) to “believe science” (✖️) to have competent foreign policy (✖️) to stop the polices violent handling of protestors (✖️) to defund the police or at least stop giving them more money (✖️)
Voting for a democrat is just, at best, voting for last elections republican, but without public opposition. Voting legitimises power and a vote for Biden makes him believe he’s right to ignore his promises and instead go full on police state.
Now we’re being browbeat with the threat of “democracy being destroyed” by a man Biden has had 4 years to do something about, yet hadn’t.
why dont your guys execute every single republican politician, if they are seeking to destroy democracy, they need to be destroyed before they win right
If they ran on that platform, i may consider
ing myself. They’d be executing half the people we need to execute
Ok so if Trump is going to kill democracy, why allow him to be president? This seems like a very silly idea.
Do you have a solution that doesn’t require Democrats to win control of the Executive and the Legislature in every American election for the rest of time?
I thought liberals tended to oppose single party political systems.
revolution
are you volunteering?
“we have to vote for the senile genocider who keeps giving more money to the military and police forces who would violently crush any proletarian revolution.”
“I support a workers revolution”
You are deeply unserious.
Wait, now I am very confused. Have you bought your gun yet? You should probably be posting here and not arguing with us.
Here’s a resource to get you started if you haven’t.
LOL uprising in this country is even less likely than biden handling a debate. good luck though
What about Project 2025 are you concerned about specifically, that is an achievable goal? Besides the whole “replace everyone in all parts of government with a 19 year old groyper” part which the GOP has been trying to do for forever anyway, pretty much all of Project 2025 is what Biden is already doing. Ending asylum and deporting everyone? Check. Arresting dissenters? Check. Blank check to Israel and more funding to prisons, the MIC, all the rotten aspects of America? Check. Limiting access to healthcare for trans people? Check. Restricting abortion? Check. Dismantling climate legislation? Check. Busting unions? Check.
Only thing that’s actually different here is that Dems do it behind your back while Republicans have a base with enough lead in their brains to think those are good things.
I don’t vote for republicans. Biden is a republican to me.
He quite literally is a fascist who supports other global fascist states. Bernie Sanders is a republican.
Have you noticed that our american flag emoji is on fire?
If project 2025 will destroy the US, I’m voting for Trump.
Look like somebody doesn’t know they’re in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
Although tbf, you do know since you literally said you would vote for a chimpanzee, which demonstrates how much electoral power Americans actually have in the system. Maybe the Dems will run a brain-in-a-jar next time around, probably easier to control!
Stop being hysterical, you’re embarrassing yourself.
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You should go tell a forum that thinks electoralism is a productive use of anyone’s time.
Would you vote for a dead chimpanzee’s excised brain tumor over Biden?
if those were the 2 options? no.
Do you think the dead chimpanzee’s excised brain tumor would fully support genocide with all possible political and material aid?
If the chimpanzee tumor promised to replace the word “day” with “banana” I’d vote for him on Tuesbanana.
As silly as it seems, this is honestly a useful thought experiment lol.
Yeah, I guess it is. Would you vote for trump or bad thing? Would you vote for biden or bad thing? Would you vote for biden or bad thing if bad thing if bad thing wasn’t going to murder teh 200,000-300,000 people Biden murders every time he’s in the white house?
Democracy is when I get to choose between two uncaring dictators instead of having one forced on me!
Der Untertan hat Gesprochen !
Wollte ihr nicht dienen wie er ?
What a weasely little edit. If you have something to say, then say it to all the people who rebuked you. You won’t because you have no arguments, you’re just repeating talking points from the echo chamber that is your empty world.
You accomplish nothing by voting except empowering a genocide.