• DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world
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    Get off your high fucking horse. Upvotes are for content you want to see, downvotes are for content you don’t. Can we stop pretending there’s some bullshit morality attached or that they’re for anything other than base popularity?

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      This isn’t right either, upvotes are for whatever I want and downvotes are for whatever I want. Ima fucking downvoted myself now after I post this comment

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          And I’m upvoting you because while I completely disagree with your comment, I’m in gratitude of your effort and we will always need new comments.

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            I’m upvoting you because I respect your opinion, but disagree, because commenting for the sake of commenting reduces the overall quality of a thread and downvote myself, because by posting this comment I am contributing to the issue.

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          I wish more people instantly downvoted worthless shit comments like “based”…

          Maybe one day.

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        You literally just repeated my exact point, but left out “to see”

        You want it, upvote it; you don’t, downvotes it. Are we actually just fighting for the sake of fighting? I thought this wasn’t Reddit.

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    If it’s garbage then I’ll downvote it and maybe block the user if they continue to post garbage in the future.

    Yes it’s effort, but is it constructive?

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    Up vote = I agree

    Down vote = I disagree

    Reported = I super disagree

    And anyone who says that they don’t do this is a bloody liar.

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      I don’t report things I disagree with, but I type long responses and usually delete before sending so ha! That will show them.

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      I’ll say it and I’m not a liar.

      Upvote= needs to be seen more. (I could disagree strongly but feel others should see it. )

    • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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      For me is

      I agree: upvote

      I disagree: nothing or maybe response

      I think they rare stupid or a troll: downvote and block.

      I’m fed up with something and it keeps popping up: mass downvotes.

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    I’m pretty sure the intent when upvotes and downvotes were created was to use them in regards to relevance. Is the topic about ducks and someone is going off about jeeps? Downvote. Is the community about posting DIY peanut butter but someone keeps posting Skippy™? Downvote.

    It shouldn’t have anything to do with agreeing, effort, or anything like that. Just a way to keep the topic/community on track.

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      I wholeheartedly agree with that. Also earlier when the dude was posting racist memes and everyone downvoted, I liked that usage.

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        This is due to the fact that racist memes are never relevant, automatic downvote!

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      Isn’t that what was specified in the original reddiquette? Downvote to maintain quality, but not to disagree?

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        This is silly though, isn’t it? Most people think most things that they disagree with are low quality by nature of being something they disagree with.

        Whatever was intended for them, IMO upvotes and downvotes work because everyone just uses them however they want, and the sum total of everyone doing that averages out to a somewhat passable quality sorting system. Trying to tell people how to use their upvotes and downvotes is just yelling into the wind.

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          I’m kinda glad we downvote the things we disagree with. Whether on topic or not, shit opinions don’t deserve to be displayed with the same prominence as reasonable opinions.

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            And that’s how a community become an echo chamber. Also assuming any opinion you agree with is reasonable and those you disagree with is shitty is silly…

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      Intent is irrelevant. Humans don’t work that way and will continue to downvote what they don’t like/agree with and upvote what they do like/agree with. Creating a system that ignores how people work and asking them to please use it how you want will never work.

      Everyone should just embrace how it’s actually used and move on.

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      I use it as a “you should read this” button. Even if it’s offtopic, I’ll upvote if it’s funny or useful.

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        I like this explanation the best. Net vote count is a decent proxy for whether something is worth reading.

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    the reason I upvote a post can differ. sometimes it’ll be because I agree with it, sometimes it’ll be because I want more people to see it and interact with it.

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    Harmful ideas should be downvoted and repressed even if they took effort to type out, actually

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      There’s always an edge case or two, it doesn’t undermine the overarching idea though

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    This isn’t Reddit, there’s no account-wide tracking of special Internet points to worry about.

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      It’s about scoring to help sorting through content that’s relevant, not a competition for points.

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      Well. The points are there in the backend, right? I guess you are saying we just shouldn’t worry about them.

      I liked being able to look at someone’s comment history and karma score to determine if they were a troll. Also liked how many subreddits wouldn’t let you post until you had a bit of positive karma in the sub.

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    Upvote = I laughed. That’s what I came for. To many occasions nowadays where a post’s main purpose is something other than making me laugh. Y’all need to entertain me better.

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    I upvote signal and downvote noise. Novelty is good whether I agree with it or not, redundancy is bad.

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      Spot on. Though the website deals with that much more gracefully than the apps

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    If everything is upvoted then doesn’t that kind of defeat the point? Isn’t the point of voting to raise the good stuff to the top? So I don’t have to browse furry porn to see some news highlights or shitposts.

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    Sometimes I see memes I don’t agree with, but I’ll still upvote if they’re funny. If you can’t laugh at yourself every now and then, you’re probably not a secure person

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      Put it like this, there’s a reason YouTube removed dislikes, because they need to keep seeing new channels. So even if the old popular channels die, they’ll have newer channels to replace them. That starts with making toxic disliking redundant. Don’t for a second think there’s no place for dislikes, but as a “I don’t like you” or “I disagree”, it’s counter productive.

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        Yes, some people do misuse down voting, but it’s absolutely worth it in my mind. It prevents bigotry from both being shown highly and also makes it clear that bigotry isn’t acceptable. How do you think someone feels when they see a bigoted comment and it’s in the positives. I’ll answer that question cause I’ve seen it all the time: it’s depressing as fuck. It still sucks to see bigoted comments at all, but at least when they’re downvoted to hell, it feels better. It feels nice to know that the bigotry isn’t accepted by others and that the bigot is in the minority.

        Similar for general misinformation, scams, etc. It’d be nice if bad comments could just get removed before you see them, but that will never be perfect. Even well moderated communities still have delays before moderators see reports and most people won’t take the time to report either.