There are the only mentions of Gaza:
Voters think Biden is too liberal. The Biden administration has worried about shoring up its left flank, particularly since the war in Gaza. But the Times-Siena poll found that while Biden is losing only 2 percent of his “very liberal” voters from 2020 to Trump, he is losing 16 percent of his supporters who described themselves as moderate and conservative.
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In the Times-Siena poll, 21 percent of voters say the economy will drive their vote, while 7 percent say inflation is their top issue. By contrast, immigration is the top issue for 12 percent of voters, abortion is the top issue for 11 percent, the war between Israelis and Palestinians is the top issue for 2 percent and crime is the top issue for fewer than 1 percent.
Biden is losing only 2 percent of his “very liberal” voters from 2020 to Trump
Because he’s losing his “very liberal” voters to leftism, you nerd.
Admittedly, when I talk to less politically minded people about it there are basically three camps of anti-biden libs (or at least hesistant), and until recently mainly just the first two.
- People who see that the world/their lives aren’t getting better and don’t like that. Tends to be poorer, less media-watching. They also tend to note how obviously senile he is.
- People who (presumably based on half remembered CNN talking points and newspaper headlines), think he’s going too far left. (tends to be more middle class and up)
- People who can’t stomach voting for him because of Palestine, more recently, or previously other things like his racist actions on crime/busing, or SA allegations, or what have you.
I don’t think Palestine is the top top issue for likely voters, but it should definitely be in a list of the top 7 things killing biden’s chances rn. With young people it might be up there as #1 or #2 but with the demos that voot the hardest less so. The narrative that he’s going too far to the left is manufactured whole cloth by the media, but its been pretty successful, it’s taken root for anyone who pays attention to MSM, though it hasn’t gotten to the level of being accepted as baseline fact yet, more of just a vibe.
I would wager that a significantly lower percentage of votes will come from first-time voters this year. That’s going to be more Palestine than “our lives aren’t getting better,” partially because young voters’ lives have never gotten better. The financial crisis began when they were 1-5 years old.
It’s wild that I’ve seen a multiple once-in-a-lifetime financial crises in the US and now it’s all kinda blurring into one rolling economic crisis that just waxes and wanes depending on different factors.
Biden is losing because Biden is a loser.
this is the kind of self-debasement it takes to ride a national media meal ticket.
when Ezra Klein is mentioned I always think of the obsequious interview he did with Obama in 2017. nobody is in the tank harder than this revolting little worm.
He supported the Iraq War, which should always be mentioned when discussing his ideas, which are themselves reheated MSNBC nonsense.
His shtick when he first got started was as the good boy who cared about policy and not just the horse race. He was auditioning to be the guy who’d relay excuses like “but the parliamentarian” or to claim that a new jerkoff regulatory tweak was actually sweeping change, and he’s been duly rewarded ever since.
Still very funny that he staked out the first (only?) “Biden can and should be replaced” take from a high profile/mainstream lib pundit, only for Biden, days later, to hold court at the State of the Union, and whip everyone in line.
That speech was just too damned zesty, apparently.
Lets add one more - Kamala isn’t funny or cool and is terrible at politics, and a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris.
“It was a debate!” maniacal laughter
But I thought a vote for Harris isn’t a vote for Biden, and is therefore a vote for Trump?
Most people vote with their pocketbook, and even on the terrain that Biden chose to fight on he fucking ate shit. He didn’t do anything to fight inflation or price gouging, he just sat there and let it happen and then all his surrogates bitch and moan how you can’t blame the president when the economy is bad but fall all over themselves to claim credit when the economy is perceived to be doing well.
The Gaza issue is just another case study in Biden’s governing style… completely out of touch and spending all their time scolding their voters about how even though he didn’t do anything he still deserves your vote, even though he thinks you’re a fucking disgusting little pig and how dare you question him or demand anything of him, don’t you see that Trump would be worse?
“If we appeal to moderates and conservatives we have an excuse not to change anything, jack”
Liberals are gonna look at themselves in the mirror and say “We have to be prepared to get more racist”
Liberals sitting in the Dr Strangelove war room debating how many and which minority groups they can afford to lose in order to “win.”
yes they keep moving right but if you point that out you’re just a Russian bot/trump supporter
Asking for a habitable biosphere and to stop a genocide makes you a Russky robot didn’t you know that?
Pointing out their own shitty logic/definition also does to some
Ain’t that the truth. There’s like an ascending ladder of pejoratives if you call out the dems. Useful idiot ->Trump supporter -> Russian bot -> Russian agent -> whatever the next brain worm is called. Probably about China.
Had one do exactly that when pointing out their tankie definition applied to their own comments. Although ended with them sending something in Russian.
was hoping for a Cracked style ordinal list
As an aside, I don’t like those “top issue” polls because often what a voter’s number two or three concern speaks to the nature of their first concern, and vice versa. A voter having immigration as their top issue with the economy as second, means something much different than immigration as top issue with crime second.
help me do the math here, what’s 2 percent of 100000 versus 16 percent of 10
Confession time: this guy bodying Sam Harris on his show is what pulled me out of the Intellectual Dark Web and got me moving toward the left. How embarrassing.
we all start somewhere, comradeEveryone starts somewhere. I watched Keith Olbermann 20 years ago
Matt Taibi dunking on “Hot Flat and Crowded”
I loved reading Griftopia and his foreward to a reprint of Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail.
Sometimes someone you admire, uhhhh, goes in a different direction you can’t follow them down
Keith “Damnyouroldman”
(Fuck I was watching him like 6 years ago oof)
I used to record Chris Hayes and watch every episode.
Also I used to read Sam Harris. Although after I read his meditation book I knew he was an idiot, and that was years before I snapped out of liberalism.
I’d still rather have him still on that any of the other msnbc presentors
Am I so out of touch?
No, it’s the children, poors, minorities, students, media, polls, Palestinians, LGBTQ+ people and environmentalists who are wrong
Palestine the most important issue for 2% of voters, but isn’t this the most important election of our lives? Shouldn’t you be fighting for every god damn point you can find so it’s not so embarrassingly close as last time? 11% for abortion who are just having to eat “I’m sure we’ll do something about it if I win again, Jack” with a grin? Unserious people.
How do you do that hacker shit that lets you deal with the paywall?
try this extension (Chrome and Firefox)
Rad, thank you!
anytime
You can also just turn javascript off. Most paywalls are made by thinking people so this doesn’t work, but it still works for NYT’s paywall (which they spent $10 million on).
lol yeah true
Ezra Kline is a mark
