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“Han” is also extremely difficult to draw a clear boundary around to gatekeep since there’s so much linguistic, cultural, and physical diversity within that group.

The issue with this is that libs will say “Han” is analogous to “White” in that there’s tonnes of ethnicities within “White” but that doesn’t stop someone being a white supremacist. It’s an argument I have seen from the libs that are less stupid but still buried waist deep in the anti china propaganda.

A Han person and Hui person from the same province probably have more in common than two Han people from a few provinces away (or god forbid, across the north-south divide).

Yup. In all my years working/living/visiting the only context the word ever comes up is when discussing historical facts. In general most chinese follow the rule of three, meaning you are considered to be wherever the 3rd generation, ie your grandparents, are from. So it doesn’t matter that I was born in Amerikkka and have lived here most of my life, since my grandparents were from Shandong that’s what most Chinese people will tend to identify me as past introductions.

Yeah. In my experience in east Asia racism is generally much more socially-acceptable in the sense of terms that are used and what’s publicly acceptable to express as an opinion.

Meanwhile I live in what is undeniably one of the most racist countries in the world - not quite on the same level as Israel or South Africa but really uncomfortably fucking close (y’know how there are jokes about talking racism with a person from western Europe and it all being fine up until you mention Romani people? That’s what people are like in this country, except for pretty much every race or nation - they’ll agree that racism is detestable, just as long as you don’t ask them to talk in any kind of detail about west Asia, south Asia, east Asia, central Europe, eastern Europe, Africa, south America…) it’s really frowned upon (mostly) to be openly racist here but as long as you’re somewhat quiet about it or you frame it in the right terms it’s totally fine.

Here we prefer our genocidal ethnosupremacist state to be nice and prim and proper - politeness is the most important factor to us because we need to conceal our virulent white supremacism even from ourselves. Policy though, especially foreign policy, that can be whatever it likes and concerns about human rights and international law be damned.

I think that’s the biggest difference in my eyes - I’ll get called a gweilo in Hong Kong or I’ll have a Japanese person tell me that I eat noodles like a Korean dog. But that ain’t worth shit compared to the atrocities that my native country has wrought upon the world in its enduring legacy of white supremacism. (Gonna make a conceptual distinction between Imperial Japan and modern Japan here for argument’s sake, although I’m standing on shaky ground doing so, but you get the picture.)

I dunno i just care much less about words than I used to when I was a lib. Sure I work pretty hard to avoid causing offence and I work to avoid words that are overly oppressive and that play into stuff like toxic masculinity but at the same time, on some level, it’s really not high priority to me compared to what else is going on.

Even if, if, China was a Han-supremacist ethnostate - what are you gonna do about it, and if you’re a westerner then what grounds do you stand on to make such an accusation and, more to the point, what are you doing about the white supremacism in your own backyard exactly?

Libs treat political concerns like bumper stickers - you just slap one that has the right wording on and dust your hands off, satisfied in the knowledge that you’ve done your part.

They got it from fascists spreading it on reddit and did absolutely no critical thinking about who was saying it because they wanted to believe it due too their anti-china brainworms. It’s still fascist in origin. It’s literally in the Christchurch shooter’s manifesto, raising this with them makes them extremely uncomfortable.