• panopticon [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    Biden has sorta done an okay job supporting Ukraine with military aid, which I also support

    You support a fascist coup regime

    I’ll be voting for Biden

    You support genocide

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      7 months ago

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don’t believe Ukraine is a fascist coup regime, in fact I think that’s a better description of Russia except the coup part, Putin just has total control anyway.

      Either way since you seem to support Russia I will just state how much I love seeing the significant material and personnel loss Russia is suffering in the invasion. It is astonishing how significantly Ukraine has degraded their capabilities and displaced their status as one of the best armies in the world, and I honestly cannot wait to see what Ukraine does next.

      I don’t know what my favorite part is, Ukraine destroying/disabling Russia’s entire black sea fleet (they are too scared to use their remaining ships since they have lost so many) or that Ukraine has removed 10% (maybe up to 15% so far https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-strikes-may-have-hit-15-russian-refinery-capacity-nato-official-2024-04-04/) of Russia’s refinery capacity with drone strikes, and that number will continue to grow.

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        7 months ago

        Lmao “concerned” about genocide and cheering on fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian child. Fuck you for being excited about war.

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          7 months ago

          I doubt you will since you probably dislike me but check out the song Vicarious by Tool, read the lyrics.

          It’s funny you highlight Ukraine’s losses when Russia’s are significantly higher. Ukraine gets to fight for their land as long as Ukraine wants to, you don’t get to say “oh think of the Ukrainian children” like you care for them.

      • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Who gives a shit what you believe. Educate yourself before you open your mouth.
        The current government of Ukraine was literally installed via a coup in 2014. Do you not know your history? The US government hand-picked their stooges to run the place, a conversation between then assistant secretary of state victoria nuland and some other ghoul was leaked confirming this very thing https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-2607995
        Why do you think both Trump and Bidens corruption scandals were embroiled in Ukraine?

        Do not speak on things you do not know of. History didn’t start on October 7th nor did it start at the invasion of ukraine.

        The fact that you try to make this about Russia is only worse, you’re employing a poor rhetorical trick to misdirect the conversation to one of moral value with no relation to material analysis. No one here supports Russia, this a LGBTQ safe space you fucking idiot. We’re just not blind dogs for the US empire, uncritically cheering as hundreds of thousands are pointlessly thrown into a meatgrinder in order to sustain the imperialist west for a few meagre seasons more.

        Instead of trying for yet another poor dunk, try to employ your empathy or curiosity and consider (and then INVESTIGATE GODDAMMIT) why we might believe what we believe. You’re a fucking idiot if you think we’re cheering for Putin. Learn what critical support entails and learn why people argue that it is better NATO loses instead of Russia.

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          7 months ago

          Well I do appreciate some of the insight in this comment, I was under the impression hexbear supported Russia and I was confused about that given the state of LGBT rights there. I even considered making a post here asking that exact question!

          I’ll do some more reading on Ukraine’s current government but doubt my overall opinion on supporting them will change.

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        7 months ago

        Reality is not a Marvel movie, you bloodthirsty piece of shit. An entire generation of people is being slaughtered on both sides of this war and your reaction is that you love seeing the “personnel loss” which is just a liberal way of saying murdered people. This is why we hate liberals, you view human misery as entertainment.