• Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    Who gives a shit what you believe. Educate yourself before you open your mouth.
    The current government of Ukraine was literally installed via a coup in 2014. Do you not know your history? The US government hand-picked their stooges to run the place, a conversation between then assistant secretary of state victoria nuland and some other ghoul was leaked confirming this very thing https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-2607995
    Why do you think both Trump and Bidens corruption scandals were embroiled in Ukraine?

    Do not speak on things you do not know of. History didn’t start on October 7th nor did it start at the invasion of ukraine.

    The fact that you try to make this about Russia is only worse, you’re employing a poor rhetorical trick to misdirect the conversation to one of moral value with no relation to material analysis. No one here supports Russia, this a LGBTQ safe space you fucking idiot. We’re just not blind dogs for the US empire, uncritically cheering as hundreds of thousands are pointlessly thrown into a meatgrinder in order to sustain the imperialist west for a few meagre seasons more.

    Instead of trying for yet another poor dunk, try to employ your empathy or curiosity and consider (and then INVESTIGATE GODDAMMIT) why we might believe what we believe. You’re a fucking idiot if you think we’re cheering for Putin. Learn what critical support entails and learn why people argue that it is better NATO loses instead of Russia.

    • Zetta@mander.xyz
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      7 months ago

      Well I do appreciate some of the insight in this comment, I was under the impression hexbear supported Russia and I was confused about that given the state of LGBT rights there. I even considered making a post here asking that exact question!

      I’ll do some more reading on Ukraine’s current government but doubt my overall opinion on supporting them will change.