Online vape seller has ‘no intention of stopping’ shipments to Australia, despite nationwide ban — ‘We have no intention of stopping just because of one twat in Canberra.’::The New Zealand-based seller issued a notice to its Australian customers that shipments will continue regardless of the government’s vape reform.

  • @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
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    354 months ago

    They fill landfills with descartable batteries, causing a lot of contamination. This is not the reason they’re being banned, but it should be.

    • @Virulent@reddthat.com
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      44 months ago

      Ironically a lot of US states have banned reusable vapes but allow disposable ones making the problem worse

    • @Fisch@lemmy.ml
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      34 months ago

      That’s only true for disposable vapes tho and I think a Pfand system, like we have for plastic bottles in Germany, would be a way better idea. People are already illegaly shipping them in from China, banning them won’t stop that.

    • Aradina [She/They]
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      34 months ago

      Except this ban bans non-disposable vapes. The disposable ones were already banned and were just sold under the counter without any regulation, like they’ll continue to be.

    • @jpablo68
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      04 months ago

      Good point, I haven’t thought of that.

      • @funkyfourier@lemmy.world
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        204 months ago

        They do not. It was suggested that ones with flavour containing diacetyl could cause popcorn lung. However, cigarettes contain a lot more diacetyl, and popcorn lung is not one of the many health risks of smoking. There is some anecdotal connection between diacetyl and popcorn lung, but far from a scientific consensus.

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            4 months ago

            The steam from coffee damages your lungs and throat, I never knew that. Are you sure about that?
            What about aroma molecules, like sniffing a flower or perfume?

            • @acetanilide@lemmy.world
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              34 months ago

              So I attempted to look up the effects of smelling flowers on the lungs for science.

              Unfortunately (but not surprisingly) the first few scientific results were about essential oils, the remaining results were just about smell sensitivities.

              The interesting thing though, is that this study nebulized people (very small study) with essential oils and found out that they had better running performance afterward.

              All this to say, you couldn’t pay me enough to do that lol

              • @crapwittyname@lemm.ee
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                Alright, Mr Black-and-white. Ozone is naturally found in air, and is toxic, as is methane and any other number of organic particles that are released by natural processes.

                Apart from your inaccurate use of language, you also made an unsupported assertion. I don’t believe you’re correct.

                  • @crapwittyname@lemm.ee
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                    During a lightning storm, ozone can be found in large quantities. There is a fairly vast amount of it in the atmosphere. It is naturally occurring and fulfills your arbitrary criteria for what should be (but, in fact, isn’t) a perfectly safe substance to breathe.
                    Methane occurs naturally in huge concentrations. Look it up, a little reading might be good for you!

                    So your amended assertion is:

                    “All forms of inhalation of [particulate] substances which aren’t [naturally expected to be found in] air causes (sic) damage to the lungs and throat.”

                    I’m sorry mate, but it’s still not true . Again, coffee vapour, water vapour, tea vapour, cooked rice vapour, long-chain hydrocarbons. None of these are naturally (i.e. without human activity) expected to be found in air, and none of them are at all harmful. Coffee and tea vapour even contain caffeine, a drug quite similar to nicotine, which is the active ingredient in vapes…

      • @Red_October@lemmy.world
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        It was called Popcorn Lung because it was caused by a specific chemical used in early Popcorn flavored vapes. That is not a condition caused by all vapes, and the chemical that caused it is no longer used for obvious reasons.

        Edited for the pedantic.

        • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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          64 months ago

          It was actually called popcorn lung because it was a condition suffered by workers at prepackaged popcorn factories. Similar to black lung in coal mines.