Online vape seller has ‘no intention of stopping’ shipments to Australia, despite nationwide ban — ‘We have no intention of stopping just because of one twat in Canberra.’::The New Zealand-based seller issued a notice to its Australian customers that shipments will continue regardless of the government’s vape reform.

  • jpablo68
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 months ago

    The real question here is, are there (mostly) harmless?

    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      38
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      They fill landfills with descartable batteries, causing a lot of contamination. This is not the reason they’re being banned, but it should be.

      • Virulent@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        9 months ago

        Ironically a lot of US states have banned reusable vapes but allow disposable ones making the problem worse

      • Aradina [She/They]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        9 months ago

        Except this ban bans non-disposable vapes. The disposable ones were already banned and were just sold under the counter without any regulation, like they’ll continue to be.

      • Fisch@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        That’s only true for disposable vapes tho and I think a Pfand system, like we have for plastic bottles in Germany, would be a way better idea. People are already illegaly shipping them in from China, banning them won’t stop that.

      • jpablo68
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Good point, I haven’t thought of that.

        • funkyfourier@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          24
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          9 months ago

          They do not. It was suggested that ones with flavour containing diacetyl could cause popcorn lung. However, cigarettes contain a lot more diacetyl, and popcorn lung is not one of the many health risks of smoking. There is some anecdotal connection between diacetyl and popcorn lung, but far from a scientific consensus.

            • crapwittyname@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              9 months ago

              The steam from coffee damages your lungs and throat, I never knew that. Are you sure about that?
              What about aroma molecules, like sniffing a flower or perfume?

              • acetanilide@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                9 months ago

                So I attempted to look up the effects of smelling flowers on the lungs for science.

                Unfortunately (but not surprisingly) the first few scientific results were about essential oils, the remaining results were just about smell sensitivities.

                The interesting thing though, is that this study nebulized people (very small study) with essential oils and found out that they had better running performance afterward.

                All this to say, you couldn’t pay me enough to do that lol

                • crapwittyname@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  9 months ago

                  Alright, Mr Black-and-white. Ozone is naturally found in air, and is toxic, as is methane and any other number of organic particles that are released by natural processes.

                  Apart from your inaccurate use of language, you also made an unsupported assertion. I don’t believe you’re correct.

        • Red_October@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          It was called Popcorn Lung because it was caused by a specific chemical used in early Popcorn flavored vapes. That is not a condition caused by all vapes, and the chemical that caused it is no longer used for obvious reasons.

          Edited for the pedantic.

          • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            9 months ago

            It was actually called popcorn lung because it was a condition suffered by workers at prepackaged popcorn factories. Similar to black lung in coal mines.

      • macrocephalic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        In a true dichotomy they are the far better option. Unfortunately they were/are attracting new smokers. The rate of teenage smoking had been plummeting for decades and was only at a couple of percent - until vapes became popular and reversed about two decades of progress.