• effward@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    As an olive hater and tomato sauce purist:

    that’s not even a pizza anymore.

    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Tomato sauce purist you say…

      You realize tomatoes are not native to Europe at all? They are native to South America and weren’t introduced to Italy until the 1500s. Even if you consider pizza at all to be Italian, the pizzas we know are a far cry from true Italian pizza.

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          Yup. Pizza as a word to mean a flatbread with toppings pre-date the arrival of tomatoes in Europe by a good 1400 years ish.

          Just like how ketchup originally was just kind of a type of plant matter derived sauce with a runny consistency that utilized a fair amount of salt. Tomato ketchup was at one point a fairly new fangled novelty as for the longest time the favoured version of it was made of mushrooms.

          The tomato more than most tends to just take over certain parts of food culture and drives out all other varieties. It’s kind of the cuckoo of the food world.

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          7 months ago

          I guess every culture that came to the conclusion to make some kind of bread at some point in time eventually put stuff on that bread. Like leftovers. The question is, do we call that a pizza… Or is it a flat sandwich or something…

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          7 months ago

          If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

          ~Carl Sagan

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          7 months ago

          Pretty sure there were other places in Africa and the Middle East where bread making technology was being developed.

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        7 months ago

        My favorite kinda pizza comes from Detroit. Runner up: Chicago. Italian style pizza isn’t even in contention :P

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            7 months ago

            Probably more than most Americans. Dozens of times? I haven’t kept count.

            Why the personal jab tho? I’m just sharing my pizza opinions.

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            7 months ago

            I’m pretty sure you can leave America and still like American-style pizza, what with it being sold in many, many other countries too.