Why would you have to be a HOF for a qb to be considered a franchise qb? There is probably around 30-40 qbs in the hall of fame. There have also been over 100 seasons.

To me a franchise qb is somebody who gets a long term extension from a team to play qb while also building the roster around their skills etc.

So JF could be one for bears if they extend him next year and don’t draft a qb in 2024. It’s that simple. People get too wrapped up in stats and comparisons to other qbs. It’s pretty simple to earn an extension. Just win games…that’s it. Justin hasn’t won enough so he won’t get extended.

Now you can make excuses for him or pile on him, I’ve seen both in this sub. But teams have people making roster decisions based on wins. They don’t want to factor in if they did enough to surround him with good players or coaches. Their decisions are based on wins because if they win they keep their jobs.

Also lamar and fields are different. Comparing them isn’t fair to either player. Different styles and the ravens organization is probably the best overall organization is the league. That pains me to my core admitting that since I live in MD but it’s true.

If fields was drafted by an organization with a winning culture…he’d get a second contract. Bears are inept on offense and front office and always will be.

I hung mine and butkus today…butkus got closer to the top this year

He was great with the bears and is great with the ravens. That said I’m glad he is gone due to his cap hit. Nfl has changed and lb is not a position you dedicate money to. Every one knows this …I live near Baltimore and love that they have to pay him and lamar all that money.

Also ravens fans are such whiny little assbags. Complain about everything and they are always a winning team. Spoiled fan base. They laugh and pity the bears.

They also think they invented their chant which is total BS

You bring up a very valid point. Also is not just tevin. Had we had our starting oline healthy for every game there is probably 10-15 plays this year that turn out positive. In this league that is probably 2.5 more wins

My point for watching film is more of evaluating talent and diagnosis of what went right or wrong on any given play. You can’t win every play but can see which players constantly contribute to losing plays. I played for over 12 years so it’s just habit for me. Understand the average fan doesn’t watch film and is faster just to read grades on PFF and then use these as basis for their analysis

My advice would be this…stop giving a F@#$ about PFF and wasting your time trying to figure it out or searching for answers in stats. Watching film is the only way to see who performs on the field.