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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • Thank you for this extra context. I already thought what was mentioned about the Valium was more egregious than the denied DNA testing. Realistically, it probably should have been declared a mistrial.

    That said, there is very significant evidence that this guy did actually commit the murders. He certainly shouldn’t have been denied DNA testing when requested decades later and I don’t think the death penalty is an appropriate thing in society generally, but some of the details are very difficult to find another realistic theory to back.

    The 58-year-old handyman who had been working for the in-laws for 20 years said Zeigler pointed a gun in his face when the two of them arrived at the store and tried to fire it several times but the gun jammed. That guy ended up getting the gun, running away, jumping a fence, hitching a ride, then showed up at the police station later that night to turn in the gun and report what happened.

    Then the other guy, Mays, that Zeigler says was responsible and was found dead at the scene doesn’t add up to being the killer either in my mind.

    I think Zeigler had already killed his wife and in-laws. Perhaps the handyman was originally meant to be the patsy but had escaped when the gun jammed and then Zeigler called Mays to the store after that as a backup Patsy?

    I obviously don’t have all of the evidence, but if you read the details about the new DNA testing, they are a far cry from clear evidence that Zeigler didn’t still kill his wife and in-laws. It was an extremely messy and complicated crime scene.




  • I rarely comment, but your statement is factually incorrect on a few points. I assume when you stated “Alina”, you are referring to Halyna Hutchins. There were safety complaints filed by other production members, but not by her. The way you framed this statement also implies she may have been killed as retribution because she filed a safety complaint, which again, she did not.

    If there is a credible source that the victim in this tragedy filed a safety complaint before her death, I will happily amend or delete my comment. I’m not trying to start a flame war or anything and this is certainly no attack on you personally, it just bothers me when I see misinformation.












  • It felt like there wasn’t any context to the actual circumstances of her arrest, especially considering the exorbitantly high bail amount. I looked around and the most information I could actually find was through a motion filed by her attorney.

    She is being held for aggravated assault x2 along with some other misdemeanor charges with an implication that the charges will be elevated to attempted murder. Her attorney also notes that she has numerous other felony charges over the years, many but not all of which were later plead down to misdemeanor charges. Epona is also noted as homeless and transient that had outstanding warrants for failing to appear for some of her charges in other states. She has outstanding warrants for this in at least one other state. Assuming that it is true that she is transient and the DA intends to upgrade her charges to attempted murder, this at least provides some idea as to why the bail amount seems ludicrously high on the surface.

    I realize that virtually all trans individuals face an extremely unwelcoming response from society that can often include abject violence and I feel true empathy for those that carry that burden. In this particular case it seems that there are lots of details that may deviate from the narrative that this particular individual was simply attacked by a group of men while minding her own business. Perhaps I’m wrong, but the original link is very one-sided which is why I went looking for more information. There are no journalistic articles covering the attack, but the motion filed by Epona’s lawyer is moderately revealing.

    https://www.lookoutphx.org/blog/flagstaff-trans-woman-attacked-facing-felony-charges/