This isn’t madden. If he’s gone, he’s gone.

The closest I can think of with us is Fangio interviewed to be the HC but still chose to stick around as DC when Nagy was picked.

lol exactly.

Oh cool, one total outlier. And it’s not like they had a 1st rounder to use on a QB. And they tampered trying to get Brady before McDaniel got there. So yeah, they were all in on Tua.

Yes it’s working out but they also dealt for Tyreek which would improve any offense.

I do think Justin showed a lot of good yesterday and made enough plays to win the game. We can always nitpick on should he have done this or that, other players stepping up, etc. but that’s not what this thread is about. This is about the pending decision on the direction to go at QB and HC and tying the two together. I think what is sometimes lost in the discussion of what happens at QB after this season is the fact that what happens with the coaching staff really plays a really big role in that decision as well. I highly doubt there is a large contingency of people here who feel Eberflus and Getsy should survive after this season. Yet we have a large group of fans who want to retain Fields. But then you must answer the question on whether or not it is wise to not let the new coaching staff handpick their QB. We constantly complain that we never time up our hires correctly when it comes to having the GM, Coach and QB all in sync and on the same timeline. Like when we paired Nagy with Mitch – it was an arranged marriage that then led to questions about Nagy not wanting Mitch, Nagy made Pace go get Foles, etc. And we did the same thing with Justin being paired with this staff and tasking them to make it work with a QB they had no part of in the decision-making process when we drafted him. Do we really want to go down that same path? Like I get it, in a perfect world Justin shows he is that dude and we have 2 first rounders to spend on other positions. But unless you are OK with bringing back this staff, we’re basically repeating our mistakes of the past. And I am not here saying 100% we should or should not move on from Justin, I just think if we opt to do so, keeping the staff intact is likely the best decision as well. And after yesterday’s coaching blunders that’s also a tough pill to stomach.

What does firing them now accomplish? “Send a message”? To who? Do you really think whoever is put as interim coach is the long term answer? OK - so what’s the point.

We are not going into next season with Fields AND a new head coach. So keep this same shitty band together and let them collectively show that they all need to go.

Holy cow, whatever healthy LBs we trot out there could be in for a long day trying to chase down Gibbs.

Any process that involves passing on a rookie QB that’s on pace to have the best rookie season in NFL history stands to be questioned. I am not saying it was obvious he was going to be this good. I am saying they sure as shit be asking themselves what they missed in scouting him.

I mean you’re kinda doing the same thing here making excuses already, just on the opposite side of what you think “meatheads” will say after the game.

I am at the same place I am before the season started. It’s not so much about wins and losses and more about how Justin plays and operates the offense. Up to this point it has gone worse than expected and bad enough to warrant moving on from him. He can change that by playing well the rest of the season and staying on the field.

But we can’t continue to make up excuse after excuse for the guy. OMG he has to play the Lions!? Cool, if he’s our QB of the future he needs to play them twice a year. Let’s see what you got.

As for Caleb Williams stans (as if there aren’t Fields stans here…) that’s also kinda weak and cherry-picked. All the baked in excuses for Fields also apply to USC where he’s not exactly playing with a stacked team. Can you name anyone else rated as a top prospect from USC coming out in the '24 or '25 draft? I cannot.

Houston was the perfect situation? Everyone was laughing at them for trading their 2024 first rounder and claimed it was going to be the 1.1

And is it not reasonable to ask whether or not you trust the process and people that came to those conclusions?

Stroud went #2. Every team didn’t pass on him several times.

I don’t think it’s outlandish to ask why the team who had the #1 picked passed on the dude who went #2 and is balling out.

Al just doesn’t give a fuck.

The only time he was enthusiastic last night was when he was talking to Jason Kelce. I can’t say I blame the guy, that was some bad football by two bad teams.

Foreman is very good!

From what I’ve seen of Roschon, he looks like a slow plodder out there. In comparison Foreman has more burst to his game.