• MisterMoo@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Elon Musk telling the world he’s never been to therapy as if his wretched life isn’t a giant monument to that obvious fact. Oh, really, Elon? Wow! You seem so well-adjusted! How do you do it??

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      8 months ago

      Damn right. But at least it gives me a chance to tell people to get help if they need it and not be afraid to do it because it somehow seems unmanly.

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      8 months ago

      Imagine the privilege, people that need therapy often cannot afford it. What an asshole.

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    It’s weak to have a problem and deny it. Toxic masculinity is a show of weakness not strength.

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      With pretty much everything in human behaviour, if a person makes a grand show about how they’re so <some human quality>, they’re almost certainly overcompensating because deep down they themselves don’t believe it.

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      Agree 100%. Sadly, we have people like Elon and Trump pushing toxic masculinity and so many men buy into it.

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    It’s funny because, viewed at the correct angle, Elon’s tweet is actually saying something truthful: if you don’t get help, it’ll be the reason you die an early death

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      Right? This tweet screams, “Be just like me! Avoid therapy and slowly lose everything in your life including the last shred of your dignity.”

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      The masculine narrative goes something like “if you ask for help, you’re too weak to achieve what you want and get your shit together by yourself”

      I’d like to look at it from a different perspective. There’s a lot we can reach on our own - but with a little push, we can do much greater things and end up being way better to ourselves and others. We also retain contact with society, combating narcissism and alienation that lets us down.

      Wanna show how strong you are? You better not stand in the mud, then.

      At the end of the day, it’s the effect we cause on this world that matters, not whatever shit is in our heads. And for the former, you do need support.

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        Elaborate it further: the biggest muscle growth is achieved with those 1-3 reps you need a workout buddy for, compared to those reps the other 40 are nothing.

  • kibiz0r@midwest.social
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    8 months ago

    The phrasing.

    “Never went to therapy.”

    Not “Never needed therapy.”

    “Never went” implies you were supposed to go.

    “What happened with therapy, Elon?”

    “I never went.”

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      “Never went” implies you were supposed to go.

      since we are doing semantics, this is incorrect. “never went” does not imply anything

    • SuperDuper@lemmy.world
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      “What happened with therapy, Elon?”

      “I never went.”

      I’ll bet that’s a lie. I bet he went once, was called out on his bullshit, tried to outsmart the therapist who ran circles around him, and felt uncomfortably vulnerable. Then, instead of confronting his issues and doing the hard work, he decided that therapy was just woke bullshit that only “”“females”“” need. Out of shame for either turning to therapy in the first place or failing at it, he boldly proclaimed this on his personal propaganda platform so that everyone would know what a genius, manly, alpha-male, gigachad he really is.

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        literally the therapy scene in Succession where Logan Roy says “Everything I did, I did for my family,” and is absolutely rocked when he doest “win” and the therapist doesn’t instantly proclaim them cured.

  • EtherWhack@lemmy.world
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    Isn’t one of the very few pathways for an ASD diagnosis through a psychologist. (i.e. therapy)

    The guy went on SNL and told everyone that he has Asperger’s Syndrome. So, he is either lying about that or never going to therapy.

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        tbf a lot of quirky “neurodivergent” tweens online are also self diagnosed and use it to justify their own selfish/immature behavior

        the only difference is that you’re supposed to be insufferable as an adolescent and you’re supposed to grow up and out of it, not be proud you’re in a perpetual state of arrested development well into middle age and beyond

  • AWildMimicAppears@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    i talked to my therapist a few weeks ago at the end of a session, and he told me that narcissists seldom go to therapy - if they go, it’s because they feel that everyone out there is wronging and belittling them.

    they have low self-esteem, which doesn’t feel good - but they can put others below them, which feels nice for them. it’s a personal insult if someone else knows something better.

    in the view of the narcissist, the therapist as a professional is insulting them every session, which results in them insulting and belittling the therapist. it takes years to make any progress.

    i compared it to a garage project for tinkerers, something you don’t expect to ever work - he loudly burst into laughter and agreed with my analysis.

    I can’t shake the feeling that Elon is a garage project for tinkerers.

  • trips@yiffit.net
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    The most narcissistic people I have ever known in my life always refused to go to therapy. There is always a substitute whether it be zealotry or substance abuse. Knowing what I know about Elon, it’s hardly surprising to me that he never went to therapy.

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      Nepo baby born with an emerald spoon in his mouth and spent his life failing upwards acts like therapy is a character flaw.