Frankly, I can only think of shows that got worse.

  • The Witcher
  • Westworld
  • Carnival Row (LOL)
  • Game of Thrones (no one even expected good past season 7, they just wanted another two good battle scenes like season 6, and satisfying conclusions to the characters they liked)

Now a lot of people are coping that Netflix Avatar, which has been greenlit for 2 more seasons, will listen to feedback and polish out the rough edges, which is obviously not likely.

Maybe it’s naive, but I think when a show obviously doesn’t work for nearly all viewers, or people consistently make very easily articulate criticisms, you’d try and address it.

it’s hard to fathom putting so much working into making a TV show and then not also being extremely invested in what people are saying about it, but most seem either uninterested or contemptuous of it all, and these are hardly auteur projects.–

  • carpoftruth [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    4 months ago

    Idk how much audience feedback played a role in these, but Community was way more Jeff centric in the first few episodes before it became more of an ensemble cast show. 30 Rock was similar - as they developed the characters they still had Liz and Jack as an anchor but all the others played a more active role and the show was better for it.

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    16·
    4 months ago

    Always Sunny? It had a pretty cold reception for its first season, then Danny Devito got involved and it became the longest running live action sitcom ever.

    • SkibidiToiletFanAcct [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      13·
      4 months ago

      I think there’s more than a few shows that get better as they find their stride. I think that’s different from a show changing course because of feedback. I can think of some times audience reaction affects which characters get brought back or are given prominence, Its harder to think of where they otherwise change the show’s direction, and it ends up working.

  • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    15·
    4 months ago

    Man the second season of Carnival Row was real rough. The weird “Communists don’t really believe anything, it’s all a front for their directionless murderous rage, and the only group of anti racists in the setting are secretly bad” subplot really put a damper on it for me.

  • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    11·
    4 months ago

    It feels like most TV shows/movies, and I specifically mean TV shows not meant for children, meat one of these failure points:

    • are being written for viewers who’ve only seen one or two TV shows before in their lives
    • are dry riding an interesting tagline or source material’s popularity and do not give af about respecting it
    • most episodes, if not all, usually not the pilot and finale, feel like they were planned and written at the last-minute in isolation by roving bands of ghost writers whose job description is to write filler content and constantly switch between random IPs they have no previous knowledge of.
    • are Marvelizing
    • get canceled while considered good and popularity is hot and rising.
    • get offered no budget while generic stuff gets insane budgets.
    • get passed over while unnecessary remakes and reboots take their place
    • remakes/reboots pretending they are sequels (e.g. Star Wars 7)
  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    8·
    4 months ago

    My wild hunch is that (many) decades ago in the pre-digital era - there surely must be examples where letter writing campaigns worked and made a show better. And - of course - this was an era where sending a message to a network required the effort of (hand) writing a letter and the cost of a stamp.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    6·
    4 months ago

    Of course every show is responding to feedback. They’re being produced by businesses, and they’re paying attention to ratings, critics, chatter, etc. So pretty much any show that’s had a bad season followed by bounce back would’ve been responding to criticism. What you’re talking about are the specific cases where the criticism becomes part of the zeitgeist and the changes in response are so blatant. And yeah, that never pans out well because that’s almost always a case of over correction.

    • EllenKelly [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      4 months ago

      you couldn’t make me not enjoy something that upset so many people, I kept telling dorks online that of course it’s different from the written canon, this show is fun, LotR isn’t supposed to be fun :)

      • RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        4·
        4 months ago

        Yeah, it’s definitely fodder for some trolling.

        I followed some LOTR YouTubers, and I got enjoyment from watching them half-heartedly pretending to like it.

        One of them even made a new channel just so he could talk about Andor lmao. Imagine getting the first LOTR project in decades and then jumping ship to a new franchise because it just sucks so bad lmao