One should be at the bottom one at the top. I understand space on the phone is a premium but a second port would make the phone so much more usable. Wired headphones, flash drives, camera modules, speaker modules, keyboards, even connection to a TV, all could be used while charging. It’s a shame it’s not a thing, USB is extremely versatile port, but you only get one and it’s used for charging half of the time. (I am aware dongles exist)
Wired headphones… could be used while charging
Sure is a shame nobody ever came up with a way to do that before.
The person who decided a headphone jack is superfluous should be found, tarred, feathered, and left naked and alone deep in the alaskan wilderness covered in pigs blood for the wildlife to enjoy.
I believe Steve Jobs is already dead. And those who inherited his billions probably don’t mind all those extra AirPod sales, especially if people keep losing them.
Jobs died before the headphone jack was removed (iphone 7 in 2016, while Jobs died in 2011).
The villain we’re looking for is Jony Ive, Apple’s product designer until 2019. All other companies just copied Apple’s lead so if there is a responsible party, it’s him.
Yea fuck him too, bit ol’ Steve was quite a fan of the whole “remove every slightly extra option and then sell it back to the user” way of doing business.
“Courage” the cowardly port.
Steve Jobs died in 2011, the headphone jack disappeared from the iPhone 7 in 2016.
It wasn’t Steve Jobs who took it away. Steve Jobs probably would have taken it away, but he also probably would have insisted on developing a technically superior but proprietary wireless technology.
They should also be be required to use a dongle for every tool they use to survive with a limit of only 1 tool at a time
I hate how we’re stuck in a limbo between headphones jacks and usb-c. Like the change was bad to begin with, but if you’re going to switch to usb-c, then do it fully.
USB-C for everything honestly would have been good if they had. But we’re stuck in a limbo
Bring back the headphone port! Bring back the headphone port! Bring back the headphone port!
It never dissapeared - you just started buying devices without one
The selection is pretty slim.
Can’t be that important if people don’t actually choose with their wallets (Xperia 5 II owner btw)
Rn I’m hoping the 5 V will be announced soon, my 1 II’s battery is absolutely fucked lol.
headphone jacks are still available for mid ranged androids, even along with a charger. pretty much the only win we can get for purchasing a mid ranged androids.
Not being ridiculously overpriced is another advantage imo.
I’d rather have another USB port actually. It’s just so much more versatile.
Honestly, this. I’m not happy that they took away my headphone jack, but if they’d replaced it with a second USB port I would have been okay with it.
Occasionally, I’ll use my phone to play a show, with a USB to HDMI. I used to keep a wireless charger next to the TV for that use case.
Lg v60, 2 screens, headphone port, Microsd.
Good night, sweet prince.
Man I miss LG being in the phone market.
Sony says hi :)
Bring back the the headphone port!
I would rather have 2 usb c ports that way you can use it fir other stuff as well
I started using wireless headphones back when I had Sony Ericsson 530i dumb phone. Also phones back then didn’t have headphone ports either. Who the hell cares about it?
Owners and enjoyers of good headphones.
They’re all wireless for years.
I think you misunderstand what I mean by “good” headphones. You’re caught in the electronics hype cycle. Good headphones exist outside of that cycle. Also good wired headphones you never have to charge, the battery never dies. If you take care of them they never become ewaste.
One should be at the bottom one at the top. I understand space on the phone is a premium but a second port would make the phone so much more usable. Wired headphones, flash drives, camera modules, speaker modules, keyboards, even connection to a TV, all could be used while charging. It’s a shame it’s not a thing, USB is extremely versatile port, but you only get one and it’s used for charging half of the time. (I am aware dongles exist)
I think you’re just a very conservative person who’s totally out of loop.
I’m an incredibly liberal person who enjoys nice things.
I used to think this but a dedicated mp3 player is superior to using a phone for audio anyway
If all you play is local media then maybe. I like to stream music from my own server though and also listen to podcasts on the go.
This is why I made my dedicated audio player device an older LG phone with a headphone jack and microSD, and more importantly their quad DAC. Great wired audio fidelity and the ability to drive high impedance headphones/IEMs on the go while running on Android so I can run streaming and last.fm scrobblers. WiFi/data and Bluetooth are usually off but there when I need it. At least where I am, this was cheaper than an Android-powered dedicated Digital Audio Player. Of course a proper DAP would have more features like physical playback controls and being able to use them as DACs for other devices, but I’m happy with my old G7.
What do you use for a dedicated mp3 player? These days all I see are dying (flash chips) used SanDisk Sansa players, cheap Amazon ones, and super audiophile level $400 ones…
Just a cheap SanDisk one. For me the main advantage is reliability; I sleep with headphones for white noise, and even discounting the possibility of the battery dying because you can’t play audio and charge at the same time, it is still basically impossible to set a smartphone up to be totally sure it will continue playing an audio file for 8 hours with no interruptions. Works great for playing music too though.
Soon you’re gonna feel lucky that your phone has even ONE port.
Give it 5 years and Apple will have removed their lightning and/or USB port and gone wireless on everything.
Apple is going to be compelled to offer USB-C as a wired charging connection in Europe if it offers a wired charging option.
Which means bye bye charging port
Well, if they are forced to bring back removable batteries which may be seem the case in a few years (unless they befuddle the EU authorities), they might have to bring back X if they remove it as well…
I’m disappointed Moto Mods didn’t take off. They would’ve been a great way to provide a hermetically sealed phone with all the optional stuff you wanted slapped on the back. Beefier battery, better controls, all the ports you want, etc. Like, a phone with a weak internal battery but then a magnetically attached external one so you don’t even have to open open the back of the phone to hot-swap.
Apple itself or rumors have already shown they have thought about removing the port altogether.
“Brave”
The worst part is AirDrop sucks. BT audio is still mediocre at best too.
I’m sure Apple is working on some new wireless standard called “magic connect” or some shit like that. It will be 13.8% better but make all previous devices obsolete and incompatible pushing people to trash their old stuff and buy some new overpriced, proprietary stuff.
Then when they introduce this new standard, their next presentation slide will pat themselves in the back because they are such a “green” company.
Agree on Bluetooth audio but what are you on about, AirDrop works fine and I use it to push large files between my iPhone and my Mac all the time.
Wireless is the future 🔮
Is wireless charging even possible?
Yeah, you set your phone on this pad, and it charges without being directly connected.
To give more details since somebody else gave you the short answer: Not only is it possible, most mid-to-high-end phones and all watches have that feature today. Google “Qi charging”, which is the modern global standard (although many devices are still on their own incompatible standards – Galaxy Watch, I’m looking in your direction).
Yes but it currently wastes a lot of electricity and doesn’t charge the phone as fast in general.
I’ve been wireless charging for a long time now. Does Apple not have wireless charging?
On the plus side it’ll make waterproofing way easier. And ports are often the first thing to break on phones in my experience. Honestly my biggest disappointment will be the loss of the SIM slot, since e-SIMs give me the creeps. I like that my relationship to the cellular provider is on a part I can pop out.
Yeah gadget makers were able to water proof Walkmans back in the 80s and these were devices with probably a dozen real physical buttons, a headphone jack and battery compartment, and hinged wide open to let a cassette tape inside. Waterproofing as well as durable buttons was something that was solved decades ago regardless of what Apple’s marketing bullshit has led people to believe.
Oh I agree but it’s obviously easier to waterproof a phone with ports. Besides that ports and buttons are the most common point-of-failure (I’m looking at my kid’s headphones on my desk where the power button was crushed in and my to-do list is to open it up and see if it’s repairable). Honestly my biggest complaint comparing the old Walkmen to modern phones isn’t the buttons and ports (I remember how miserable the buttons were on my 100-meter waterproof Casio watch back in the '80s) but rather the screws. I hate that glue has become a standard tool in electronics assembly. If I never have to do the gamble of the “hot enough to loosen the sealant but not to hot to damage it” dance with a heat-gun again it will be too soon.
Never stop from moving the heat gun. And getting a touchless laser thermometer can help to know what temp youre at.
ASUS ROG Phones have them. Also with a headphone jack I think.
Weird headphones don’t use ucb-c, there is already a standard for headphones and it’s the 3.5mm audio jack.
That’s not the only standard though. There is also 6.3mm jack, XLR and many other open and proprietary connectors.
a) I have a USB-c headset at work
b) the 3.5mm headphone jack can’t be used to transfer data (at a good rate)
Not sure what exactly you mean by headset. But headphones and IEMs will use a 3.5mm or 1/4" jack. My sennheisers use it, my beyerdynamics use it, my audio Technicas use it. Even my KZ IEMs and moondrop IEMs use it. This is a universal standard for a reason.
And not sure what the data rate has to do with anything. It’s an audio connector, it’s not used to transfer data, it’s used to move the drivers in a set of headphones. As usb-c doesn’t output line level audio, any headset you have that uses it needs its own DAC and amp which is problematic for e-waste reasons.
Headset, as in headphones with a microphone. I use it for MS Teams meetings and a bit of music and it works fine.
The point OP was trying to make is that you can use USB-c for other things besides listening to music.
Since you seem to be an audiophile with a list of fancy headphones (don’t ask me, my Cardo combined with earplugs is fine for the level of listening I want to do) then wouldn’t an offboard DAC / amp that you could keep far longer than a phone, and isn’t restricted by size constraints going to be better than a built-in version?
Also, if you’re worried about e-waste maybe you shouldn’t buy so many headphones. My partner’s Sennheisers have lasted 20 years so far.
This is what life is when all viable phones are made by two giant tech companies.
You can plug a USB hub into your phone. That’d give you more ports.
I’m fairly certain there are hubs out there with a pass-through for charging as wellHaving something built in is so much better than needing a dongle. There’s a reason why even Apple brought back ports like hdmi and sd card slot to their Mac book pro line to eliminate even the needing a dongle for some people.
Yeah I’m not saying it’s ideal, but it could be a solution to the specific problem that OP was running into
i know, but it’s an extra thing to carry in my pocket
Am I the only one who uses magnetic cables?
I use them too! My phone usually fast charge at 30W, but with the magnetic cable it is capped at 5W (thanks God). I’ve seen drastic improvement in term of battery life because it charges slower and do not stress the battery as much as at 30W
Indeed. But it also makes the USB being very unwieldily to use for anything.
That’s what I use to connect external storage on my Chromecast w/ Google TV, kinda useful while traveling and the Internet sucks… Shame it only supports FAT32 for external drive tho…
Dongle-life!!
are you also aware that some phones do have 2 ports ?
just buy one of those
ROG phone
We could even… Charge twice!
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- I never understood why space should be at premium. A phone does not need to be as thin as possible. 1½-2cm thickness is reasonable in my eyes, and would allow so much more ports and/or buttons. I would have use for 2-3 extra buttons.
- The biggest pro of two opposing ports: you could always charge your device regardless of orientation. With just a port on the bottom charging while scrolling in the bed is often uncomfortable
The biggest pro of two opposing ports: you could always charge your device regardless of orientation. With just a port on the bottom charging while scrolling in the bed is often uncomfortable
This is my biggest problem with my switch! I have to awkwardly hold it when I’m trying to ay laying on the couch or in bed. I hear the Steam Deck has a port on top for charging so it’s already begun!
Can confirm top port for the SteamDeck. Perfect for relaxed gaming while charging. :-)
And most people add a bulky case anyway. Just integrate that shit into the phone!
I agree. If we’re going to lose the headphone port in favour of connecting to a universal connection (either directly or via an adaptor) then it’s time we have two of them. As for positioning I gather that there are lots of handheld PC’s with the one on top and one on bottom configuration and that it’s generally accepted to be the best way (and my on top 3.5mm and on bottom USB-c seems to work pretty well) so I think you’re right but it would be nice to see manufacturers try out a few different configurations to see in practise what people prefer.
I think on a phone it would make sense for bottom and side, which is the top of a handheld PC. That way you could have the cord sticking out whatever direction was handy for you by turning your phone.
Asus ROG does this
We’ll to be clear, on handheld PC’s I’m talking about having them on opposite sides rather than at a right angle to each other. But I can definitely see the advantage to the right angle orientation. Personall I prefer to have them in line, yesterday for example I had my phone plugged in to power, with audio out connected via cable and wanted to be able to watch video in landscape orientation. With top and bottom connections it all paid smoothly in a line, had they been at a right-angle then one of them would have had to go straight up into the air out of the middle of the device.
I suspect that right angle is better for flexibility in how to connect a single cable at a time but in line is better for connecting multiple cables at once (really side-by-side is best for multiple at a time but you lose nearly all the flexibility for single cable connection.)
I think you’re crazy 🤣
Wireless USB never took off. Essentials company was promisimg with PH1, it had wireless USB port. only released two wireless USB compatible devices for it though.
Well modern USB is great because of decent throughput, high power delivery, multiple protocols over it, and good compatibility.
Of course removing all of those didn’t work out.
You know what? As long as the second port isn’t gimped in any way (can do video out + all the typical USB things), then I might forgive them for taking away the headphone jack.
I very much like this idea, would be nice to be able to use a phone in more of a mini-computer manner, whereas at the moment they’re somewhat hamstrung.
I’m always surprised phone docks aren’t a thing, my work laptop has a USB-c dock that is bristling with ports that are useful.
