If you’ve got cleaned, cooked seafood that smells like fish shit, you’re at a shitty restaurant. My only takeaway from this is that we should really see if we can make terrestrial insects taste as delicious as we make aquatic insects taste.
oh there’s some tasty bugs out there already. people are just too squeamish about it.
For me its mostly the legs/heads. I dont fuck with heads on anything and legs need to be way bigger for me to be interested. I’d try one of those fly/mosquito burgers tho.
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crustaceans and insects are two different things, not real complicated. The crustaceans have actual meat, not a fluid filled exoskeleton.
I dunno… Have you ever opened a crab up before cooking it? It’s pretty much all goo inside an exoskeleton.
I mean I eat them raw and it is some yummy goo, definitely not bug like
While it is inaccurate to characterize crustaceans as bugs, they are arthropods and share an enormous amount of anatomical and psychological features with insects. Both have open circulatory systems and use hemolymph to hydraulically operate their limbs. That “meat” that you’re talking about is only really visible after cooking, and consists mostly of denatured and congealed hemolymph.
Well I.kmow that’s wrong cause look at an uncooked shrimp
Insects also have muscles in certain locations throughout their bodies. You’ll find the exact same structures in similarly structured insects, just on a smaller scale. Honestly I have no idea what you’re talking about because they both have muscles and both have open circulatory systems, both will solidify into “meat” when cooked. I’m not sure what you’re suggesting meaningfully distinguishes them here other than their taxonomic classifications and their size.
It’s not complicated. Quit trying to flex and just look at the obvious.
You’re very resistant to learning.
You’re very insistent on quoting Wikipedia
I am? Are you sure you’re not confusing me with someone else?
Large bugs definitely have some meat on them. Chomp on a large beetle and you will see
Well the latter have more “meat” on them, whereas bugs are mostly just “shells” once they die. You aren’t eating the shells of crustaceans, you’re eating the innards
You got a point, but the kind of bugs eaten in some parts of the world are usually the fatty kind .
See, at a glance, that thing looks disgusting. I have an instinctive revulsion to the thought of eating it.
I guess some people would say the same for whole live shrimp though, and I grew up fishing them out of the sea and boiling them up in a pot.
Uncooked sea bugs looks unappetising as well
So I guess the same would apply to the uncooked land bugs. They will look better cooked.
The bottom ones have delectable white meat inside. The top ones are all brown guts and crispy, musty shell. Nobody is shelling crickets for a worthwhile piece of meat inside like you do a shrimp or a lobster.
They look similar to bugs, sure. But let’s not pretend it’s the same thing.
Sounds to me that the common preparation is to just blend them into a powder at which point they’re just a non descript protein rich powder
Still no tasty meat.
Well yeah, this would be a poor substitute for meat, but I haven’t really seen it suggested as such, just as another way to introduce protein.
We’re pretty close to creating real synthetic milk by means of modified bacterial culture.
If we can have real milk, cheese, whey protein etc. from cheap feedstock in fermentation vats, I don’t see a single reason why someone would choose bug powder over that as a protein source.
Because you need a wide variety of BCAAs and dairy alone doesn’t cut it.
What do you mean? Milk is a complete protein mening it has all 9 essential amino acids. It also has them in good amounts in proportion to what humans need. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5149046/
A physiologically-significant increase in the rate of muscle protein synthesis requires adequate availability of all amino acid precursors. The source of EAAs for muscle protein synthesis in the post-absorptive state is the free intracellular pool. Intracellular free EAAs that are available for incorporation into protein are derived from muscle protein breakdown. Under normal conditions about 70% of EAAs released by muscle protein breakdown are reincorporated into muscle protein. The efficiency of reincorporation of EAAs from protein breakdown back into muscle protein can only be increased to a limited extent. For this fundamental reason, a dietary supplement of BCAAs alone cannot support an increased rate of muscle protein synthesis. The availability of the other EAAs will rapidly become rate limiting for accelerated protein synthesis. Consistent with this perspective, the few studies in human subjects have reported decreases, rather than increases, in muscle protein synthesis after intake of BCAAs. We conclude that dietary BCAA supplements alone do not promote muscle anabolism.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5568273/
EAA - Essential Amino Acids
Even if that was true, that’s assuming your diet consists of only dairy. No beans, grains, meat, eggs… You could easily say the same for the bug powder.
However if you’re going to eat a diet based on one thing, make that thing dairy. It does contain all the nutrients required to grow a calf at a massive rate, and a human as well. In my youth I did the GOMAD diet for awhile to put on bulk, and the results were incredible. Milk is close to an optimal food, it evolved to be exactly that.
That only works for people of northern European stock, literally evolved to survive a winter on milk and stored potatoes. The rest of us are lactose intolerant for the most part, and besides that, cows milk will literally kill an infant, you need goats milk in that situation.
You should try reading the study.
In asia the bugs are often put with other condiments, lollipop, spices etc… to make them taste something.
And they are mostly like snacks. I don’t know any culture that have them take the place of a meat in a dish.
TL;DR: disgust is learned.
- How Do Toddlers Learn About Disgust
- Is moral disgust socially learned?
- Disgust as an adaptive system for disease avoidance behavior
Bottom line is that while there are things that we’re hard-wired to reject, the rest is more about what social groups teach us at a young age. Also, we can overcome the hard-wired aspects to an extent, again through social reinforcement.
Shrimps is bugs
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I live in a fishing town, and I used to love crab, until I was adult and it was my turn to prep them. The first time I turned a crab over and saw the bottom, where all its freaky little legs connect, I had a real “oh god this is either a bug or a space alien” moment. I can’t stand crab anymore, just the thought of it makes me feel nauseated. Lobster too. Somehow shrimps are okay, though.
It’s gross sure but i never understood how that would make someone stop eating it. For me no matter how gross something is the taste is the only thing that matters.
Other examples, rabbit’s brain, black pudding, or in general how we kill most animals to make steak… It’s always creepy, gross or a bit disturbing, but it never changed my taste for it.
If all the meat on earth disappeared tomorrow, I would become a vegetarian before ever knowingly consuming a bug.
What if they were raised in a hermetically sealed environment, dried out, ground into a fine powder, then added to batter to make pancakes?
I don’t think I could eat whole bugs, but bug flour? Easy.
Lol this is something I do from time to time. Cricket flour is available where I live and it makes great breakfast pancakes!
No thanks
I’ve had crispy dried grasshoppers that were chill once, and some BANGIN cricket tacos in NYC.
They’re actually pretty great for protein.
I’ll eat as many bugs as a billionare eats.
But aren’t billionaires completely sick in the head? I’d be careful with a claim like that
In case your serious that you don’t get it. The bottom pic is all crustaceans that are more closely related to insects than fish.
Op is saying they don’t get why many ppl frown upon eating terrestrial insects but do eat aquatic ones.
Of note, insects diverged from the arthropod line that would become crabs, lobsters, etc in the beginning of the Carboniferous or late Devonian, a solid 350-400 million years ago. This means crabs and grasshoppers are more distantly related to each other than humans and frogs.
…That’s the point they’re making…
They don’t get how we like to eat water arthropods but not land ones…
Nah fam you can keep the sea bugs, too.
More for the rest of us!
Most people are definitely quite squeamish about eating unshelled shrimp. This feels like a strawman.
Sea roaches