cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/10692187

so, the company was Vastaamo. was because it got bankrupt after the breach, and GDPR violations.

the “hacker”(or rather cracker) was extradited from France to Finland.
you can read about how terrible the company’s security was here: https://tietosuoja.fi/en/-/administrative-fine-imposed-on-psychotherapy-centre-vastaamo-for-data-protection-violations

or watch mental outlaw’s video on the matter, or the Wikipedia article on the breach.

now there are several things that shouldn’t have happened (e.g.: don’t do these things on your main OS, have root access disabled, etc.), but I’ll leave that to you experts.

    • umbrella@lemmy.ml
      51·
      9 months ago

      would be great if i wasnt forced to share data with morons with that shitty fucking brain

  • AVincentInSpace@pawb.socialEnglish
    971·
    9 months ago

    No. This is fake, it’s gotta be. Not even the “I use Kali by the way” script kiddies are that stupid.

    • lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.deOP
      1051·
      9 months ago

      you’re underestimating people’s capability to make such mistakes. remember silk road? the guy used the same username in two places, and gave his email id(which had his full name) in one of them.

        • lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.deOPEnglish
          52·
          9 months ago

          it was late 2000s(he was arrested in 2013, before snowden leaks). and the guy wasn’t a “hacker”. he created the website where stuff(both legal and illegal) was sold. so, you have to keep that perspective in mind.

          • THE MASTERMIND@feddit.ch
            8·
            9 months ago

            Oh yeah i remember that guy i i thought you were talking about someone else. And in my opinion they should just free him he has done more time that he should have to whie other bigger criminals than him with money are running around free . But still it was a very noob mistake of course unless he did it delibretly because he didn’t care about anonymity.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
      20·
      9 months ago

      Not saying its actually what happened but I would ask how he knew about the data.

      Statistically, it should have been a random port scan that got in but since he‘s from the same country, he‘s either professionally or privately connected I assume. He either worked there in IT function, visited as a patient, dated an employee, etc.

      So in other words, he‘s not a master hacker but probably stumbled across this. I had this with a webspace provider once were I could see all other customers folders when I used ssh instead of the web interface. I couldnt access them but I got a wiff of how stuff like this happens. 99.9% of their customers are inept at IT stuff so a mistake in ssh would never come up since customers wouldn’t use it and in that one case, they overlook it.

      So, this might have been his first hack ever and it probably took a long time til he even understood what he had in his hands. Thats why I dont do stuff like this, I‘m prone to such mistakes as well. Most elaborate scheme imaginable and cc it by mistake to someone I know.

      • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        8·
        9 months ago

        I just was reading Wikipedia and it said he was arrested previously for hacking.

        In 2015, when he was still a teenager, a Finnish court found Kivimäki guilty of more than 50,000 aggravated computer break-ins. Among other targets, he attacked large educational institutions in the US, hijacking emails, stealing credit card details and blocking site traffic.

        Kivimäki received a two year suspended sentence for those charges.

        https://yle.fi/a/3-12669196

        You’re probably right he had some connection and stumbled onto the data, but this wasn’t his first rodeo.

        • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
          3·
          9 months ago

          Thanks for pointing it out. This makes it even more embarassing that he made a mistake like this. But I can still see how it could happen.

    • olutukko@lemmy.world
      5·
      9 months ago

      Oh you wish. It was huge news, a shit ton of people.got their information and social security numbers leaked in plain text

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
      4·
      9 months ago

      The main reason I’ve never done anything illegal online (not counting piracy) is that I’m confident I’ve been that stupid many times and will be if I do.

  • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz
    84·
    9 months ago

    While in the U.S., your mental health data are just on the market, waiting to be brought.

    https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/03/ftc-says-online-counseling-service-betterhelp-pushed-people-handing-over-health-information-broke

    In the good case, there will be a class action law suit, and every victim will get approximately 2 dollars back for all their health data sold; but only after giving more sensitive information to the company that distributes these two dollars.

    https://www.morrisbart.com/faqs/how-is-money-divided-in-a-class-action-lawsuit/

    What a fun time to be alive.

      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
        53·
        9 months ago

        I firmly believe any service that advertises that much on YouTube and podcasts is evil.

        I’m waiting to hear about Hello Fresh’s child trafficking ring or whatever they’re up to.

          • AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml
            13·
            9 months ago

            Raid Shadow Legends is connected to an Israeli gambling company

            Anything that advertises heavily is most likely to be a piece of shit

          • IntentionallyAnon@lemm.ee
            8·
            9 months ago

            I find Nord’s sponsor scripts misleading at the best and lies at the worst but the service for what it is is pretty good. Still would recommend Mullvad

            • anivia@lemmy.ml
              71·
              9 months ago

              but the service for what it is is pretty good

              I disagree. Most people wouldn’t need it at all, and for most people that would actually need it it’s useless due to not supporting port forwarding

              • IntentionallyAnon@lemm.ee
                1·
                9 months ago

                Mainly so someone doesn’t get my ip and know my city and sometimes I sail the high seas

                I know ip is useless. I just don’t want someone to get my city and send an investigator

                I fully agree with your point. I feel like sponsor scripts should say these points. 1: if somebody sends you an ip tracker link Nord won’t leak your IP 2. if you want to watch georestricted content 3. If you are on someone else’s network and you don’t want them peeping your websites. 4. 🏴‍☠️

                • anivia@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  and sometimes I sail the high seas

                  Yeah, but it’s useless for that. If you pirate from Usenet or one click hosters you don’t need a VPN, and if you use torrents or other peer to peer protocols you need port forwarding, which NordVPN doesn’t support

  • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
    622·
    9 months ago

    Not exactly an indictment on the hacker as much as it is one on these predatory online psych dealerships.

    Once again we’re seeing deregulations leading to McSolutions that A) are of lower quality, and B) more expensive than what we had.

    • WhoPutDisHere@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      9·
      9 months ago

      Yeah, it felt like the clown man was the company in the first two panels, then it shifts to hacker, then the final few are just confusing. Poor clown man, so many internal conflicts.

  • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
    52·
    9 months ago

    Sad that the company was able to declare bankruptcy, rather than the directors being held criminally liable.

  • NaoPb@eviltoast.orgEnglish
    14·
    9 months ago

    I’m always worried when making .tars that I’m doing something wrong when the file also has a . file inside. I know this is probably nothing but it makes me think of something like this.

    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      12·
      9 months ago

      . and … are how terminals navigate around file systems.

      The command cd . means “change directory (cd) to here (.)”

      cd .. means “change directory to here, but one level up: my parent directory.”

      So following that model, winrar and maybe older versions of 7zip used folders called ‘.’ as navigational tools within the archive browser. If you double-clicked through them, you’d see where they go.

      I don’t know how much of this you knew, but the point is it shouldn’t freak you out too see them.

  • uis@lemmy.world
    517·
    9 months ago

    On one hand what the fuck just happeend, on the other hand it’s Finland, in Finland massmurderer will complain about lack of PS5 in prison and.

    Edit: nevermind, it was PS3

    • Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee
      16·
      9 months ago

      Dude, did you even read the (very short, obviously biased and sometimes factually incorrect) article you linked? Breivik is in Norway, not in Finland.

      • Urist@lemmy.mlEnglish
        15·
        9 months ago

        Also, why the fuck should they not have access to ps3, books and such. Prison is about taking away one’s freedom, not about putting people in psychological or physical distress. In Norway we want convicts to be in a better state when they come out than when they got incarcerated (though Breivik will most likely never come out). Who wants to live next to a person who have been 20 years in solitary, I mean come on.

        • jkrtn@lemmy.ml
          8·
          9 months ago

          If you’re not a bloodthirsty Calvinist predestination lover I don’t know if you would understand the American mindset at all.

        • Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee
          5·
          9 months ago

          Yep. The American system of punishment over rehabilitation is so strange to me. It won’t help one bit when (if in this case) they get out.