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Lol. So he wants to illegally expell US citizens, who can then immediately return to the country. I know he’s just trying to play it up for his base, but holy shit they can’t be so braindead that they believe it would actually happen…right?
it is (on paper) against federal law and would probably cause a shit storm
Yeah it would now, mostly because of people on Twitter. But then again, remember the US bombed it’s own citizens, mulitple times. What makes you think they give a shit about catching flak for illegal deportations?
I know you were mostly speaking about Trump’s base being gullible, but the subject to me is the question “Will the US prosecute itself for anything illegal it has done?” History has shown me that the answer is no.
Also let’s be honest here, there probably won’t be much pushback from liberals who’ll be too happy that they’re being proven right and will be going ‘told ya so!’ to (most assuredly) Palestinian Americans/Muslim Americans who are being deported for opposing genocide.
What I still don’t understand about this, even though I know it happened, is how do you deport someone to a country they’re not from? Is being deported just a free ticket to any country? If I find the nearest ICE agent and say “Oui oui honhonhon baguette, please deport me” does that get me free entry to France?
Like, many Americans may not know this, especially the government, but other countries do have immigration laws of their own. I can’t comprehend why Mexico doesn’t go “Hey you can’t just drop off random US citizens in our country”
Well Mexico obviously didn’t have much say in it, they are completely vassalized and without sovereignty to just accept millions of people being population transferred onto them.
Presumably the same way they stop anyone else who isn’t allowed to enter from doing so; Border checkpoints, patrols, surveillance, and deporting people back to where they came from (the United States)
Like don’t get me wrong, I don’t think literally any level of border security should exist for any country, and I think every member of the US border patrol and ICE should be summarily executed. But “how do we stop unregistered entries” is not a new question for countries.
If they decide to ship the person back to the US, the US can ship them back to Mexico. And the US can keep it going indefinitely because they’re are sadistic animals with infinite money whereas Mexico will eventually give in.
If Mexico somehow continues, the US will just shop that person to an even weaker country who won’t bother sending them back. Or they’ll just ship them to Iraq and let you die from the lack of insulin.
If Mexico somehow continues, the US will just shop that person to an even weaker country who won’t bother sending them back
And when this did happen in the past Mexico mostly just did that part themselves “Oh you’re not supposed to be here either, we’ll send you to an even poorer country”
I was kind of wondering whether or not other countries not wanting to play ball would make the ploy just create a population of people stuck in airports for eighteen years like Mehran Karimi Nasseri.
If this was applied it would just be a way of silencing international students/faculty who support Palestine on campuses and to a lesser extent other people on visas. Do people not remember the last Muslim ban? He would totally do something like this. I don’t why you start off your comment with “Lol” have you never met someone on a visa or an international student. Someone like him would gladly start sicking ICE on pro Palestine students without citizenship. I’m honestly baffled on the level of joking around in these comments. Like haha send me to China LOL, maybe just for a second think if this is not a joke to other people. I think it would be a travesty if something like this could happen.
CLIVE, Iowa, Oct 16 (Reuters) - Donald Trump promised on Monday that if elected president again he will bar immigrants who support Hamas from entering the U.S. and send officers to pro-Hamas protests to arrest and deport immigrants who publicly support the Palestinian militant group.
Trump, president from 2017-2021, said that if elected to a second White House term he will ban entry to the U.S. of anybody who does not believe in Israel’s right to exist, and revoke the visas of foreign students who are “antisemitic.”
Undoubtedly it’s intended to target anyone in precarious citizenship situations. But aren’t most people in those situations already going to lay low in the US? I’d assume most people agitating and protesting in any country are probably not on a visa.
In the case of an international student or professor from the middle east or anywhere else for that matter they are in a precarious situation being they only have a visa to study/teach, but that normally doesn’t come along with the expectation that if they state their beliefs by as little as going to a protest they will be deported. That’s a whole another level of precarity. And I would assume that in many cases students and faculty from abroad make up important segments of many US university movements/protests for Palestine. As they have unique experiences/insight that many people who never leave the US don’t have/develop.
I can’t say no to Bibi.
Lol. So he wants to illegally expell US citizens, who can then immediately return to the country. I know he’s just trying to play it up for his base, but holy shit they can’t be so braindead that they believe it would actually happen…right?
It’s happened once before.
The U.S. Deported a Million of Its Own Citizens to Mexico During the Great Depression
EDIT: Here is another one: Mass Deportation May Sound Unlikely, But It’s Happened Before
Yes, I’m not saying it couldn’t happen. But it is (on paper) against federal law and would probably cause a shit storm
Yeah it would now, mostly because of people on Twitter. But then again, remember the US bombed it’s own citizens, mulitple times. What makes you think they give a shit about catching flak for illegal deportations?
I know you were mostly speaking about Trump’s base being gullible, but the subject to me is the question “Will the US prosecute itself for anything illegal it has done?” History has shown me that the answer is no.
Also let’s be honest here, there probably won’t be much pushback from liberals who’ll be too happy that they’re being proven right and will be going ‘told ya so!’ to (most assuredly) Palestinian Americans/Muslim Americans who are being deported for opposing genocide.
They’ll just call them Hamas supporters to justify it all. Didn’t want to be deported? Shouldn’t have supported Hamas then.
Fair point.
Lol
What I still don’t understand about this, even though I know it happened, is how do you deport someone to a country they’re not from? Is being deported just a free ticket to any country? If I find the nearest ICE agent and say “Oui oui honhonhon baguette, please deport me” does that get me free entry to France?
Like, many Americans may not know this, especially the government, but other countries do have immigration laws of their own. I can’t comprehend why Mexico doesn’t go “Hey you can’t just drop off random US citizens in our country”
Well Mexico obviously didn’t have much say in it, they are completely vassalized and without sovereignty to just accept millions of people being population transferred onto them.
How will Mexico stop them
Presumably the same way they stop anyone else who isn’t allowed to enter from doing so; Border checkpoints, patrols, surveillance, and deporting people back to where they came from (the United States)
Like don’t get me wrong, I don’t think literally any level of border security should exist for any country, and I think every member of the US border patrol and ICE should be summarily executed. But “how do we stop unregistered entries” is not a new question for countries.
If they decide to ship the person back to the US, the US can ship them back to Mexico. And the US can keep it going indefinitely because they’re are sadistic animals with infinite money whereas Mexico will eventually give in.
If Mexico somehow continues, the US will just shop that person to an even weaker country who won’t bother sending them back. Or they’ll just ship them to Iraq and let you die from the lack of insulin.
And when this did happen in the past Mexico mostly just did that part themselves “Oh you’re not supposed to be here either, we’ll send you to an even poorer country”
I was kind of wondering whether or not other countries not wanting to play ball would make the ploy just create a population of people stuck in airports for eighteen years like Mehran Karimi Nasseri.
The USA also deported anarchists and communists who were American citizens early on in the red scare IIRC.
The current guy said he’d cure cancer.
I don’t recall curing cancer being a federal crime tho
Did you cure it using illegal imported drugs from Cuba lie to customs, and bypass the US pharma racket? That’s a paddlin’
If this was applied it would just be a way of silencing international students/faculty who support Palestine on campuses and to a lesser extent other people on visas. Do people not remember the last Muslim ban? He would totally do something like this. I don’t why you start off your comment with “Lol” have you never met someone on a visa or an international student. Someone like him would gladly start sicking ICE on pro Palestine students without citizenship. I’m honestly baffled on the level of joking around in these comments. Like haha send me to China LOL, maybe just for a second think if this is not a joke to other people. I think it would be a travesty if something like this could happen.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-pledges-expel-immigrants-who-support-hamas-ban-muslims-us-2023-10-16/
Undoubtedly it’s intended to target anyone in precarious citizenship situations. But aren’t most people in those situations already going to lay low in the US? I’d assume most people agitating and protesting in any country are probably not on a visa.
In the case of an international student or professor from the middle east or anywhere else for that matter they are in a precarious situation being they only have a visa to study/teach, but that normally doesn’t come along with the expectation that if they state their beliefs by as little as going to a protest they will be deported. That’s a whole another level of precarity. And I would assume that in many cases students and faculty from abroad make up important segments of many US university movements/protests for Palestine. As they have unique experiences/insight that many people who never leave the US don’t have/develop.