“Why do they say it’s a mystery how the pyramids were built when it’s obviously just big bricks in a triangle?” - Philomena Cunk
“Romans: Perfected or Invented? Anal Bleaching.”
I had just posted that Cunk did it better haha
Lemmy loves Cunk and I’m all about it
Wtf is Cunk
Philomena Cunk is a character portrayed by Diane Morgan who hosts absurd history shows
Absurd? Yes. Genius? Also yes.
lmao. There was some show I saw, I think it was on the History Channel. They were at some river in the South and they spent the entire episode with some guy who insisted that there was a giant 10-foot catfish in the river (maybe multiple giant catfish? I can’t remember), and that the catfish was responsible for the various pets and occasional people who went missing and were never found. They went off and talked with ichthyologists who talked about limits on catfish sizes, and I forget who else, exploring all the edge cases which might allow a giant ten foot catfish to live in the river. And at the end of the episode, they’re talking to the guy again, going over their findings that it’s possible, theoretically at least, that at a very very edge case, this giant catfish might exist, and the guy was like, “I knew it! Everyone around here keeps sayin’ it’s the alligators, but I jes’ knew it was th’ catfish!”
All an idiot needs is the teeniest tiniest iota of plausibility and all their preconceived notions are true and correct in their mind.
Confirmation bias, it’s the new drug.
Hardly new.
That is facebook’s entire algorithm, and the reason why so many look at White Nationalists and don’t see Nazis these days.
Of all the “crypto” type stories out there, the giant fish ones are the ones I’m most inclined to believe. Unlike a lot of other categories, there’s actually hard evidence for us pulling giant fish out of the water.
If the Detroit River can harbor sturgeon approaching 7ft long in this day and age, I’m not about to totally shoot down anyone’s fish story.
I think you mean cryptid fyi.
No, I’m uhm verifying my Bigfoot report integrity with blockchain.
The likelihood that Bigfoot exists and that block chain will ever be actually useful are about the same… So seems legit to me.
The wheel part reminds me of something I learned from 3blue1brown:
“Pi seems to magically appear everywhere, until you realize that wherever it appears there is usually a circle hiding”
Usually. Sometimes it really does seem magical. Sometimes the circle is very well hidden. Maybe we just haven’t found it yet.
Honestly I’ve learned more math from that guy than any math teacher I ever had - one of the few YouTube channels I would absolutely recommend to anyone scientifically inclined at all. He’s an incredible explainer.
Blow your mind with the video where he calculates pi through the repeated elastic collision of a pair of blocks… One digit at a time. If that sounds bizarre - yeah, watch the video.
Pi in the normalizing factor of the normal distribution was a surprise to me
But it is in fact due to circles hiding very well.
Where is the circle in the wall bouncing one?
https://youtu.be/jsYwFizhncE?si=swB8l4IpY6j6AeN-&t=190
The equations for conservation of energy and momentum can be mapped onto a circle in “phase space”
Yuuuuuh I was often confused about Eigenvectors and then watched their video on it and the visualisation of scaling just made everything so simple, I felt stupid for not getting it before.
We want to think it’s aliens or some shit because we want to believe that we are super evolved and intelligent and every civilization before America was invented was composed of cavemen.
Ancient people were super intelligent. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth with remarkable accuracy. Today’s most commonly used calendar in the western world, the Gregorian calendar, derives from the Julian calendar which in turn is derived from the ancient Egyptian calendar, which predates the Julius calendar by millennia and was impressively accurate as well (it loses only one day every four year), and that one has roots in Mesopotamian astronomy. For years our ancestors harvested herbs and plants to heal diseases and wounds. “Cavemen” were building megalithic temples in Malta thousands of years ago.
Just because they didn’t have Facebook and plastic bags, doesn’t mean that they were stupid.
I don’t doubt that this is a factor, but it’s not like the phenomenon is limited to just ancient inventions by non-white ethnicities.
I’ve definitely heard people saying that microwave ovens, very much not ancient tech, very much invented in America by a white person, were actually salvaged alien tech from crashed UFOs.
Holy fuck, finally someone not shoe horning racism into this somehow. Its not racism, these people think EVERYONE back in Egyptian times were stupid, not just non white people
That’s true, but there’s sort of a network of these different beliefs that tend to chain together into a belief system that, I would say, strongly correlates with sorts of weirdly racist conspiratorial shit. If you’re willing to reject the invention of the microwave, this totally arbitrary thing, and say it was from aliens, it’s pretty easy to blow that up and say that maybe the pyramids were also aliens. Like, you already believe in aliens, you already believe in a well-organized conspiracy capable of hiding facts, it’s not that big of a leap to make that like, oh, maybe the aliens also did the pyramids. Maybe the aliens are here all around us already, and then bim bam boom bob’s your uncle and suddenly you believe all this fucked up shit.
Then, you know, kind of, spin it out even further, and then a lot of this misinformation and conspiracy is going to come from fucked up kind of racist narratives and shit like that. The realm of misinfo and conspiracy is more occupied by that, almost by necessity.
‘Super intelligent’ sure seems like a stretch.
They were simply human. So if things were anything like they are now, then most folks likely were frothing retards, but there were also a few smart folks.
The history channel’s take, as well as others, that ancient civilizations could not have accomplished what they accomplished on their own, and therefore it’s aliens is peak Right-wing cope.
“Obviously those backwards non-white civilizations couldn’t have accomplished this on their own, because of their skin color. So therefore, the obvious solution is that they accomplished it because a hyper-intelligent space-fairing civilization took notice of their existence and arbitrarily decided to help them. This makes much more sense.” - Thought process of the utterly deranged.
Genuinely the only reason this smooth brain take is so popular is because its been echoed in media as an admittedly fun story-telling mechanism. But that’s all it is, a story. To put this on the history channel and claim it’s history is just one of the reasons why the History Channel has had their reputation sink in the past 20 years.
The racism of UFO conspiracies gets worse the deeper you go. For instance, it is a common belief that there are multiple races of aliens, but the really “good” ones are either the “Nordics” or the “Tall Whites.” They are generally described as being tall, white, blonde-haired and blue eyed.
Lmao that just sounds like regular terrestrial racism
The implication of ET genetic programs involving hybridization efforts between certain male and female Homo Sapiens and extraterrestrial beings is a huge subject that many people are scared to talk about.
lol—so this is basically ‘God made white people special because Reasons’ for non-religious people I guess
for non-religious people I guess
This can also plague the religious, to be fair. Every one of these conspiracies has some level of fucked up gnosticism going on inside of it, usually.
Yes, surely it’s because of their skin color and not because it was so long ago that people underestimate the amount of technology and labor they had access to.
Don’t they say the same things about Stonehenge?
Sort of, there’s a long train of things here. The Stonehenge theories primarily come from “Chariots of the Gods?” by Erich von Däniken who stole a lot of the Stonehenge stuff from Robert Charroux who thought that white people were actually descended from aliens and brought technology and civilization to the rest of the world.
Something can’t just be mildly amusing or funny, dude has to cry laugh for 5 whole minute.
This is a stolen Cunk on Earth bit, so if they mean they cry laughed for five straight minutes watching the episode, I would believe them
Something can’t just be a similar joke, it has to be “stolen”
Yea but then he’s missed about 300 jokes in that time span and needs to rewind it
Alien conspiracy theories about the Egyptian or Mayan Pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, the Nazca Lines, etc also have the implicit racist undertone of “well it’s not like the actual humans from those primitive and backwards cultures could build it!” Basically, non-white people built something too advanced and white people don’t like that.
By comparison, we never see alien conspiracy theories for mediaeval castles and cathedrals. No TV show is saying “so you’re telling me that a bunch of serfs who couldn’t read and didn’t know basic arithmetic could build a castle? Nah they were too primitive it was probably aliens.”
This is such an absurd take. There’s people in Europe who believe that Europe’s megalithic structures were built during the time of Atlantis and devote their whole existence to proving it, just to give one example. And of course, Stonehenge, neolithic Europes intergalactic landing site/astronomical calendar/astral energy power plant.
Megalithic structures like the Baalbek stones or Göbekli Tepe from preliterate times are aweinspiring enough to get anyone’s imagination going, it’s that simple. And some people then have a hard time distinguishing their imaginings from reality. They seem impossibly large and their purpose and methods of construction are lost to time, so it’s easy to come up with fanciful ideas to fill in the blanks. Sure, we now have decent theories of how the pyramids were built, but that weren’t always the case.
Castles and cathedrals were built too recently for even the wildest of wild brains to believe they weren’t built by humans.
It also implies aliens are dumb as dirt.
“Hey Xorglib, what did you do on your vacation to Earth? Did you teach them how to cure diseases? Or maybe advance their technology by a millennium or two?”
“Oh. Ummm…I helped them move some stones into a giant 3D triangle to immortalize their god emperor. And that was it.”
“Asshole.”
Just the alien version of building sand castles.
We do see Stonehenge included in ancient alien theories sometimes though.
Remember one about the inca or something, and they said that there was no way they could cut perfectly fitting stone bricks for their walls, so it must have been aliens or something
Except maybe they just ground out the imperfections after excavating the stone, the exactly the way European masons did.
They stacked things on top of other things? Must be aliens!
Funnily enough (to me), the (white) Anglo-Saxons spoke of the Roman ruins in Britain as having been built by giants, because they could not imagine how they had been constructed.
You’re talking about the same type of people that think the earth is flat. These people don’t think about race, they see a mystery and try to see their agenda in it.
My social studies teacher was fond of pointing out that people in ancient times had the same size brain we have now and where they lacked academics for math literacy they spent all their time working out tradecraft.
Yes let’s make it a race thing. Have you considered that maybe the majority of ancient structures are found in those countries. These countries were more civilized and were building much more sophisticated stuff before white people were. The few ancient white structures that we don’t understand how they built and still stand do have conspiracies around them e.g. stonehenge.
Miniminuteman archeology basically dedicates his channel to debunking this crazy shit. He has even brought in other archeologists if he finds out he got something wrong. It’s a great channel.
Oh dude, I love his videos. I haven’t watched him in a bit, but I should check him out again.
que ominous music
Did Leonardo da Vinci possess secret knowledge of the Great Pyramid’s builders which he encoded into his Vitruvian Man?!
Or y’know… they boths mathed.
Just a friendly correction: it’s cue. Que is ‘what’ in Spanish.
alternatively “queue”, when the music isn’t appropriate just yet
Wait… No? I thought standing in line was a queue and a director would give you a cue.
Like, here’s your cue to stand in queue.
You’re absolutely right, a queue is a line where you wait and a FIFO data storage. I was making a pun, since both Spotify and YouTube (and likely numerous other platforms) have a “queue” for titles to play after the current one, and the verb “putting something at the end of a queue” is “to enqueue”, sometimes shorted to *to queue" (which normally means to stand in line yourself, a favorite pastime of the British)
Exactly. The DJ is a native Spanish speaker and he’s asking which ominous music you want him to play. /s
Even if you don’t use a wheel, if you do enough geometry Pi is bound to appear eventually
At which point you need to form a quasi-religious cult to suppress the information, for fear of people discovering the heretical existence of irrational numbers.
Too che.
How do you measure things with wheels?
Like if this side must be exactly 34 wheel revolutions long, you put a dent on the side of your wheel, you roll it in a straight line, and when your dent touches the ground for the 34th time, you just measured a length with a wheel.
Oh. Duh. My brain decided not to work today.
Happens to all of us, friend.
And the cool part is that you don’t even need to measure the length of the wheel if you know the radius because you can do ✨MATHS✨
A witch, a witch!
Build a bridge out of them!! (Then use a wheel to measure how long it is!!!)
Huh, the more you know…
You mark a point on the circumference and then make the wheel roll in the direction you want to measure while counting the times the mark passes the floor.
Very carefully.
Wheely carefully.
You roll it and count how many times you rolled it. Like how an odometer works in your car.
Would an odometer still work if I’ve got an air freshener in the car to deal with odor?
Yes, but only because of ancient alien mathematics
That’s why it’s called an Odo-meter.
insert Rene pictures here.
aliens could definitely build upside down they have the technology
Australians.
Reminds me of the time a bunch of people were fascinated with a pen that writes up side down and someone blurted out ‘pencils’. This was after some Seinfeld episode about a pen.
Is this the old joke about American astronauts spending $1M to invent a pen that writes in space while Russian cosmonauts just used pencils?
There’s technically a reason why you wouldn’t want to use graphite in space (the particles don’t just fall to the floor, they float around in the air and get into places they shouldn’t), but also NASA is notorious for going through ten different private contractors to do what a proper public sector organization would internalize.
Also, Pilot created that pen as a marketing ploy without having an official contract. NASA did pick it up, but IIRC, Pilot technically lost money on the project. Of course, marketing costs money, so they were fine with that.
Do you mean Fisher? Pilot is a Japanese pen company who doesn’t have anything to do with the space pen, as far as I know.
Yes, mixed them up.
Yeah imagine trying to sharpen a pencil in space.
In my fourth grade computer lab, they didn’t even allow pencils around the Apple IIe’s. (Yeah I’m old lol.)
Yeah imagine trying to sharpen a pencil in space.
You just click the little eraser on the back to extend the graphite.
What is this future black magic wizardry?
Egyptian craftsmen simply knew how to make concrete. The idea of saves sliding around building size boulders on steep inclines never had proof