That massive spike of 50c/kWh at the left looks tiny compared to today even though that’s already insanely expensive

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    11 months ago

    50 Euros a day is insane. That’s a good portion of what I pay for a whole month.

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      11 months ago

      Part of it was faulty pricing from a Norwegian electricity exporter. Also, they have almost finished the new infrastructure, so they do not have to import as much in crisis situations. I think a new nuclear power plant goes online and lots of renewable stuff. The problem OP is maybe talking about seems to be very well handled by the state and already solved. https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/24708-electricity-prices-in-finland-return-to-normal-levels-in-2023-down-64-from-previous-year.html

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      11 months ago

      Lucky you. 175 square meters, 25cm styrofoam on walls and 30cm rock wool on ceiling and I pay 200€ per month in winter for gas heating in Poland. Solar panels are not economical in current regulations and billing rules have changed so those with heat pumps pay at least twice us much in coldest months.

      We are fucked from every angle.

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        11 months ago

        Get a space heater.

        Mine was $15 at Walmart, heats my room like it’s Spring, and only adds $5 per month to my electricity bill.

        Come Summer, I’m going to get a dehumidifier and see if I can use it in place of my A/C.

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          11 months ago

          Invoice from yesterday for December 2023. I used 201 m3 of gas, calculated by provider as being equal to 2224kWh of power for which I paid 682.81 PLN (157 € to be exact) in total including taxes and surcharges. So 3.397 PLN or around 0.78 EUR per m3.

          December was one of the coldest months this season. Last year I used maximum of 250 m3 per month which happened to be January/February. This then exceeded 200€

          This includes both warm water and heating using low-temperature floor heating. Current thermostat settings give me 22C on the base floor and 20C on the first floor (where most heat escapes, obviously). I also have mechanical ventilation with recuperation.

          Shit’s expensive.

          With current prices of electricity, the same heating power with perfect constant COP of 3 (not possible with December temps for air heat pump) would cost me 666 PLN. (Nice). How can I offset the cost of installing it in the first place LOL.

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        11 months ago

        wow! i paid 220euros for gas heating and warm water in 78m2 flat in poland for all last year.

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          11 months ago

          Yeah I lived in flats before, it’s a totally different story, unless your flat is on the last floor or on the corner there is not much heat loss assuming your neighbors also use the heating.

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            11 months ago

            not really… my flat is in corner. Gave 3 sides, nirth, east, and south. No other flatsconnected with mine. And to this, flat under mine is empty, nobody is living there.

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      11 months ago

      I will never complain about paying 33¢/kWh for 3 hours a day in the summer ever again.