• tetris11@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    A 3D printing revolution is what we need. Something that can print a very basic storage device. It doesn’t have to be good, just needs to be free shitty alternative to these price gougers.

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      9 months ago

      I’d suggest you do some research on 3d printing, you seem sorely misinformed about it’s capabilities

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        9 months ago

        Oh I know what they’re limited to now. But imagine a 3D printer that is capable of writing its own PCBs. Hell we have people with their own basic lithographers, it can’t be that far off, though probably a decade or two, granted.

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      Unfortunately it’s not possible to 3D print memory and the memory densities required makes it impossible for anyone other than those on expensive cutting edge hardware to achieve cheaply.

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        9 months ago

        Lies!

        I can 3D print all the parts of an Abacus, giving me tens of bits of memory and a calculating device!

        But yeah, on the serious side, nobody is going to be 3D printing any time soon, if ever, the kind of stuff small enough (and hence with sufficient memory densities for modern applications) to require advanced lythographic techniques and clean rooms to make, even if somebody went to the trouble of figuring out printeable materials for each of the kinds of layer (undoped semiconductor, various variants of doped semiconductors, conductive layer, isolating layer and others) currently present in ICs.

        You can print “kiddy electronics” (really big transitors, resistors, capcitors and so on) on flexible substrates, but that’s way too big for any halfway decent memory densities (the Abacus joke is only half joking).

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          9 months ago

          The magnetic read write head is going to be difficult to manufacture. The gearing will need to be 100% on point. You will either need a PCB custom made for your project or you will need to program an Arduino or pi to perform the tape backup. Your OS will need software to manage the data transfer.

          You can store 30tb on tape for well under $100. It’s the magnetic tape itself that costs.

          You could buy a used tape drive and cassette for less than the cost of a HDD of the same capacity.

          Tape storage is slow and finicky. Retrieving is even slower due to seek time.

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      9 months ago

      An admirably optimistic goal! What you’re talking about here is a post-scarcity society like Star Trek, though. And even with machines to turn energy and goo into anything, they couldn’t replicate complex machinery like a tricorder - only the individual parts, sometimes.

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        9 months ago

        Good enough for me! I’m not looking for a perfect solution, I can work with incomplete products with weak parts, as long as those parts are readily replaceable

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      You wanna store a few hundred bytes? Print some mechanical knobs and call it a day. You wanna make some real storage devices?

      Hire top PhD:
      Physicists for quantum effects used (and parasitics mitigated)
      Chemical engineers for CVD and other very hard and expensive clean room processes.
      Electrical engineers to design analog circuitry for charge pumps and multi-level cell readout technology, as well as digital VLSI/HDL design for digital logic including storage controllers
      Mechanical engineers for packaging design and automation for your expensive and dangerous production line
      Civil engineers for your fab plant, which is so large that significant infrastructure needs to be built to support your fab (e.g. TSMC in Taiwan funded/built a municipal scale desalination plant of which a significant fraction is used for semiconductor processes)

      Until we have replicators as the other commentor pointed out, I’m afraid we aren’t even close yet. Fingers crossed we hit type II civ sometime but I won’t be holding my breath for it.

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      9 months ago

      I think that would just be a normal printer. Printing pages of data lol Edit: use the scanner with OCR to get the data back into the computer