I love the original Hotline Miami but I’m not a big fan of the boss fights like the ones in Neighbors (Biker) and Deadline (Van Driver). I find it kind of slows down the game and limits the strategies you can take.


Another example would be Fallout 3. I find the tutorial section in Vault 101 can feel a bit long after a fifth run but maybe that’s because I was spoiled by Fallout New Vegas’ ability to run off in your own direction immediately after leaving Doc Mitchell’s house.

  • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    I generally like playing the assassin’s Creed series, but since assassin’s Creed 3 or so, the future storyline is just lame and every time I get pulled out of the animus I groan audibly, because I now have to do some stupid quest outside of the main story.

    The thing is originally I was hyped that eventually Desmond would become a master assassin and I would get to play a futuristic, open world, watch dogs style assassin’s Creed. It’s clear that they fucked that up, so now I just skip all the out of animus storylines when I can.

    • @SlothMama@lemmy.world
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      I honestly believed this was going to be where things went as well, the fact that it didn’t and they chose an honestly bizarre way to handle it really took the joy out of the present day stuff.

    • @TedZanzibar@feddit.uk
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      Aw man, yeah, the ending of AC1 where Desmond uses the eagle vision and discovers the code on the wall, it gave me chills at the time. I was so hyped for where they were going to go with the story and for a modern day assassin arc.

      But I guess they realised they had near infinite points of history they could stretch the franchise out to, and keeping the Desmond story going was only going to limit their cash cow’s potential.

      I checked out half way through the Ezio arc that seemed to go on forever and only went back because everyone was raving about Black Flag. By then the modern day story made zero sense to me and was just a slog.

      • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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        I found the same issue with Ezio, it’s like they liked the character so much they just got stuck on him and dragged out his story but at least he had the most complete arc

      • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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        I found the same issue with Ezio, it’s like they liked the character so much they just got stuck on him and dragged out his story but at least he had the most complete arc

    • R0cket_M00se
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      36 months ago

      I loved the modern sections of the first two games (Ezio trilogy is one game for this comment’s purpose) and never played three, so when I got black flag and found out retroactively that they killed off Desmond and didn’t intend for a modern day assassin’s creed to be the endgame I quit playing them.

      Just in time too, cause they’d have clearly just kept milking the franchise to death in the past decade.

      • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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        I’ve been replaying the entire series this year, the biggest issue I have with the last couple (origins, Odyssey) is that they’re too damn big. It feels like a slog to play

        • R0cket_M00se
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          16 months ago

          Did they go full ghost recon with it? Just absolutely massive open worlds?

          • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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            Yeah, especially Odyssey. I like to explore the whole map, but I don’t like it when a game is pushing 100 hours and I just want to move on to something else.

      • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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        Even if they didn’t want to go all the way modern, we should have gotten a ww2 or cold war assassin’s Creed

  • Berttheduck
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    Dark souls. Everything after Anor Londo is a bit of a slog. Once you’ve beat Snorlax and Pikachu the game gets a bit worse in terms of quality.

  • @Susaga@ttrpg.network
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    276 months ago

    One of the most popular mods for Dragon Age: Origins is a mod that lets you skip the fade section of the game. So that’s a pretty good indication of how people feel about it.

  • @SalsaGal@programming.dev
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    Half-life’s Xen levels are particularly infamous for this sort of thing. There’s a reason the Black Mesa remake overhauled it.

  • Codex
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    I’ve seen that damn cart ride in Skyrim so many times that Ralof and Hadvar are basically family. I consider the alternative start mod an absolute requirement now.

    I love Thief and Thief 2 but there are a few levels in there (Thieve’s Guild, Trace the Courier) that are pretty dull and uninteresting to replay. They’re the songs you’re still tempted to skip on otherwise perfect albums.

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      I’m nostalgic for that cart ride, but I still use the alternate start mod because the cart ride is one of the buggiest parts of the game, and letting my mods load prior to viewing the cart ride avoids a lot of problems

    • @Chobbes@lemmy.world
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      The start of Skyrim is sooooooo long and so boring. I didn’t even enjoy it the first time… by the time I got out o the caves I was burnt out and gave up on the game for like 12 years. I got into it recently, but I almost always bounced off of it because I didn’t enjoy the opening at all. Bethesda is probably the absolute worst company at game openings. Even Privateer’s Hold in Daggerfall is kind of notorious for grinding players into a bored paste. Possibly the only game that gives Bethesda a run for their money is the awful temple section in Fallout 2, but I assume that’s why they bought the franchise lol.

    • @MIDItheKID@lemmy.world
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      Do you count the prologue level in Mega Man X as a tutorial? Because whenever I go back to beat that game, I have no problem playing that level again. It takes like 3 minutes and it gets your jumping and shooting fingers all warmed up.

    • @Muscar@discuss.online
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      I understand why they do it, though. Because every time there is something skippable, people will skip it and then go and complain about being confused or saying the game didn’t explain something well enough. A good thing that should be more common is things shouldn’t be skippable the first time you play a game and then skippable after that.

      Many wish for less handholding in games, then completely miss major features or story beats because they skipped whatever they needed to get that info and go and pester the devs or others about it.

      • @Bazoogle@lemmy.world
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        The secret: at the end of the game leave a key combo (like a cheat code) that skips the tutorial. Anyone familiar with the game could just find it online any time they want to replay it, but new players wouldn’t know it exists.

  • @Moghul@lemmy.world
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    I don’t replay games often, but I did several playthroughs of Elden Ring when it came out. It’s a 10/10 game and nothing beats playing it for the first time blind.

    However, the mountaintop of the giants is fairly lacking and the boss rush at the end leading up to Radagon and the Elden Beast feels rushed. I also prefer the Godfrey fight over the final boss.

    • Funkytom467
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      True, the mountaintop could have been a bit more Inspired for a zone locked behind a lot of progress. Even more underwhelming if you compare to Farum Azula.

      True Godfrey was one of my favorite boss both times just because i love the character and ambiance. I remember making a build of a viking with two axes and listening to brothers of metal.

      • @Moghul@lemmy.world
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        For some reason I can’t see your comment in the thread. Maybe I can reply here.

        The walk out into Liurnia from Godrick’s castle and the elevator down into Nokstella are such beautiful moments, perfectly done, without even a cutscene. The closest I’ve seen in another game is seeing Touissant for the first time in Witcher 3. It’s a land of fairytales.

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          I deleted it because I didn’t quite capture what I wanted to say.

          But you see what I’m saying. I’ve never felt so small, but so enthralled by the environment

  • Gunpachi
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    Fighting street thugs in the Yakuza games. The man can’t even walk peacefully for 2 mins.

    The problem is even worse with Yakuza 7. The RPG fighting mechanic makes me feel like fighting is a chore. To add to that, you cant even run away from these fights.

  • TonyHawksPoTater
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    GTA: San Andreas, OG Loc mission. I’m much better at it after all these years, but I still run into at least 5 walls and fall off my bike every time. It’s way harder than the train mission.

  • @Kiwi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Terraria. I love Terraria but the start is a chore to get through with how slow everything is. It’s still not enough to stop me of course, the game is just too much fun

      • @Kiwi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        How I wish I could play it for the first time again, beating the wall of flesh for the first time and discovering that the entire game just shifted to whole new level was amazing. Then, after beating moon lord a couple of times, discovering modded Terraria. There are no words to describe the joy this game has brought me

  • @dewritoninja@pawb.social
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    The intro of fo3 - fo4 - tes5 - tes4. I have saves just after the intro because it’s 30min - 1h just to start playing the damned game

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          Maybe but some people don’t use mods like that because they disable achievements but there’s mods to re-enable them.

          Could also be that they don’t know about them. I feel like they aren’t super popular. A majority of the time they just dump you somewhere with some loot and you still need to backtrack a bit.

  • yazirian
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    I call Nier:Automata “the best game I will never play again” and it’s because of 9S’ combat.

    What were they thinking? No one cares about 9S anyway! But he’s your playable for well more than what should only have been his one-third the game, and his combat is AWFUL! If I wanted to play Asteroids I’d play Asteroids. You have two other playable characters, both of which chop up robots with giant swords! THAT’S what people are here for, know your audience!

    • セリャスト
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      For me all of nier automata’s gameplay was terrible, and the story too but that is something I know not many people will agree with me on

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        I could not even figure how to get to the second playthru. But I am probably just dumb. But it definitely didn’t land for me. Anime was great though.

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          You just load your save iirc. The game is not really finished until the 5th ending

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              The 21 other “endings” are just rly dumb imo, except for the one of them that’s pretty special but that I would have never encountered ingame without looking at the wiki

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                I’m salty that one of them is missable too.

                Also, catching that one fish…

                A perfect save is so far out of reach.

  • 𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒊𝒆𝒍
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    Generally the escort missions or forced on rails/stealth sections in open world games where you have specific builds and play styles