School shooting in Europe: A tragedy
School shooting in America: A Tuesday
Pssh, like we only do 1 a week
Closer to a day. 288 this year, but school’s out, so we’ll just have some mall and church shootings to close out the season.
I was in Auckland, NZ when there was an active shooter in late July and the whole city was on alert. I was expecting an American style mass shooting based on the number of sirens I heard outside. When I found out it was a disgruntled employee who shot 2 coworkers I thought “Oh, that’s just a Tuesday in America”
Yeah, except the Czech Republic will probably take meaningful steps to ensure it doesn’t happen again
Considering they have a semi-2a already, doubt they will. And I hope they don’t and get further pro-2a…russia is near.
WT actual F is a 2A? Sounds like a school class? Do we shoot it?
It’s “murican” for the right to bear arms. Namely referring to the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.
Somebody probably has shot it knowing this country.
Ah yes, that really old law. We have one in the UK like that, it says something like you can shoot a Scotsman in York on sight, but only with a bow and arrow or after midnight or something
But it’s not enforced because it’s an old law and, well, WE’RE NOT FUCKING STUPID 😂
Well, brexit.
Just stupid in different ways.
We can all be morons together. separately if you don’t want to risk stray bullets from this side.
Since it’s still on the books, could that be used as a legal defense? (Just curious, I’m neither in the UK nor wish to kill anyone with a bow and arrow after midnight)
Common law is based on precedent more than written law (code law), so the fact that no scottsman has been killed in over 100 years and used this law as a defence is proof enough that it isn’t valid legislation.
No, you couldn’t use it as a valid legal defense. There are a lot of old laws like this in the UK that, while technically on the books, have been replaced by more recent legislation.
No, common law is set in precident and there’s no legal precident for it currently.
Isn’t it always “after midnight”?
You’re advocating to disregard any constitution that’s too old?
At least update the fucker every few years…we won’t even do that anymore.
One thing a lot of people are concerned about is the current state of politics, it’s incredibly difficult to get that process going and once we open that can of worms you better believe that billionaire assholes that have already been trying to influence politics will have their favorite atrocious shit put into the constitution.
It’s more like “let’s legislate our issues first.” If we have to change the constitution I’m pretty sure we’re going to end up with an amendment that requires all citizens to buy Koch products, abolish the EPA and make those kinds of departments unconstitutional, or some other absurd nonsense.
Maybe amend it
Yes.
YES
r u stupid?
feel free to say no but ur case isnt looking good
r u stupid
Then fails to type whole words 😂
2A = second amendment. The second amendment to the United States constitution declares that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Second amendment of the US constitution. It’s text is:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
And what that means is up to “interpretation” and some think it means that everyone with no restrictions what so ever should be able to buy guns on a moments notice. Its the main reason why we have this problem state side.
Yeeehaw! I’ve got a semi-2A just thinking bout shootin’
Fuck, just wait until they come up with a bump-stock-2A
Well, a special parliament meeting has been called already. Our constitution is quite malleable and I think most parties will agree on stricter gun laws. The gun was legally carried by the perpetrator after all, despite his mental instability and online posts suggesting he premeditated the act.
Also, I expect more training at schools: the killer killed his father first before heading to the faculty, and they had been warned. A partial evacuation was conducted but turned out to be ineffective.
Yep, your constitution is not like the USAs which requires a lot of support from 2/3rds of the states to be ratified.
Types 2a because they can’t spell ammendment
That’s because the education system would be better run by a crack head.
Coincidentally, it was in the only EU country I know of that has a right to bear arms in their constitution.
What possible correlation could there be? If only we could comprehend this complex issue.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/school-shootings-by-country
One shooting in a country is not proof that the right to bear arms is a public danger. As one might note from the equally isolated incidents in the countries without the right.
288 school shootings in a country that is hardly alone in that right is instead proof of a cultural disease.
A cultural disease that would be inhibited by strong gun restrictions
It raises an interesting point: if the US cracked down super hard on guns but didn’t address the underlying social problems, would people just turn to a different type of violence? Whst would that be? Would you suddenly get all of the would-be shooters committing acid attacks instead?
Before or after the civil war you’d get for trying to disarm a population with more guns than people?
In any event, if you assume it happened magically you’d probably just get mass stabbings that are, at least, easier to stop and have lower body counts.
God, just imagine if all the gun fetishists became knife fetishists overnight, they’re already creepy enough.
One argument I’ve seen against gun restrictions is that you’d be more reliant on the police force which is largely a corrupt gang of stupid bullies with both guns and the impunity to commit murder. I’m for enacting stronger restrictions but this point is difficult for me to refute.
What was that thing with “Under no pretext” I’m sure that it’s not that important
Nah this is a bad take.
Gun law is complicated, they can definitely be used to enhance the violence someone with ill intent can do but social conflicts generally drive it. I mean I’m aussie, we have a fair bit of gun control but still basically anyone who isn’t a drongo can get one (although atm I’m in appeals because apparently ADHD precludes me lmao, yep defs don’t want shooters getting mental health treatment! Should encourage them to hide it!). We actually have quite a few, almost all bolt/lever action rifles but. Handguns have a lot of commitment and training required which is reasonable since they’re for target shooting and people murdering.
We have social issues involving violence, mostly femicide DV stuff, we don’t really have the shooters. We don’t get the stuff like acid attacks or stabbings that you get over in like the UK or whatever. Someone can do a shitload of harm with lots of thing, a slow firing rifle isn’t substantially more dangerous than a car, improv bomb, or crude chemical weapon.
There is no justification for having easy access to guns in the public. If citizens feel so unsafe in their homes that they think it’s necessary, then there is a structural problem
Sorry, how does this follow? Most countries allow access to firearms. while we can question the validity of the concept of a country; this presumably communicates that most people don’t feel it’s absurd to have access to firearms.
They are just machines, some are designed as human killers and I would agree that access to those is generally bad. Some are for target practice, some are for killing non humans which I find abhorrent but understand is part of the world for now, some are pure silly fun in the same way fast motorcycles are.
When talking about firearms you need to talk about a certain category because banning them all is as silly as banning drugs or banning stump remover because it’s trivial to make a crude incendiary from it.
There was a mass shooting at Uni Heidelberg last year
And he bought his guns in a country where they can be purchased freely.
Oh wow!
Now we have a total of 40 school shootings in Europe … since 1900.
The States do that in like what, two weeks?
No, but definitely in less than one year.
I love how the Wikipedia article only lists the most horrific school shootings in the US, since it is too much work to list all of them.
USA! USA! USA!
I had to actually read an article to make sure it wasn’t Prague, Wisconsin or some nonsense.
Prague WI definitely doesn’t have a university. If I remember right Prague WI doesn’t even have a gas station.
I just naturally assumed I’d misread and that it was something to do with PragerU.
His online diary or manifesto whatever was already posted on 4chan, just on like Dec. 10 he was debating if he wanted to be a serial killer that kills one at a time or mass shooter. Long story short, he was going to do some fucked up shit no matter what.
"Wait a minute,
They have guns in other countries?"
Guns aren’t banned in any EU countries I know of. That’s a strawman by American gun control opponents.
In fact, most of Europe has found a good balance of regulations regarding firearms. Where I live (Germany), getting a gun license is about as difficult and costly as getting a drivers license.
And the Czech Republic even has a right to own guns in the constitution.I’d like to add that a driver’s licence in germany costs 2000€ and you can’t get it at school lol
Yes, regulations are so strict that cars are basically banned in Germany.
That’s news to me.
Italy? France?
Prague
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Its not funny…
gal·lows hu·mor /ˈɡalōz ˈ(h)yo͞omər/ noun
grim and ironic humor in a desperate or hopeless situation.
I’m Czech and our culture prides itself in gallows humor.
Way to make the year’s darkest day even darker!
Easy answer. Used too much. An especially weak argument when the one finding it “funny” is never from the area it’s happening in, and thus doesn’t actually have any emotional connection they’re needing to cope with.
You know there are still a couple recordings floating around from people who had tried to call family and/or 911 prior to dying in 9/11? I’ve found anyone who listens to those seems to stop making the 9/11 jokes. Strikes me odd. Must have made it real.
I mean, I may not have any connection to Prague, but as an American citizen who has been shot at, I think I have enough of an emotional connection to gun violence. I still chuckled.
I’ve listened to those recordings, and I still make 911 jokes. Reading the room and compartmentalization are things that go along with Gallows humour, but its generally accepted that the internet is a space where thick skin is needed, because its impossible to know the situation of literally every stranger who’ll end up eying your comments
Good people joke to cope with the absurdity of our society’s tolerance of it and our fellow citizens demanding it stay this way so they can selfishly keep their pew pews.
It happens all the time. We live in morbid times. The sane can cry about it, be numb to it, or laugh the absurdity of it, because we have no recourse to address it. The ignorant rugged individuals that don’t want a society have spoken.
Shooting each other like dogs when we aren’t exploiting eachother for private profit is who we are and I’m ashamed of it, would you rather people horrified of this reality find a coping mechanism to get through the day like dark humor, or just kill ourselves so as not to offend?
I’m worried that if I legit stopped laughing about it, I’d become a gun statistic myself.
Big /s on this one. No suicidal or homicidal ideations, but man, am I floored by kindergarten rhymes about lockdowns and having gotten 2 lockdown notifications from my 11-year-olds school in last month (neither were active shooters but when the message subject is just "lockdown’ there’s that moment where you just don’t know)
We chose guns over them. I intend to tell my child that when they reach the age of reason. Some individuals like me did not, but overall society says that their ability to buy unlimited murder toys is more important than their life. That is what our society values. This is who we are.
I will tell them this because it is true, and they need to operate in the world as it is, not as I would like it to be. I will also tell them that is an example of how important it is NOT to allow what society believes to dictate what they believe, as most of what our society believes is cruel and exploitative, and I hope that’s not who they want to be.
I am Czech and jokes about it are circulating already. We take pride in our dark humor, fostered during our perilous 20ᵗʰ century.
“You can accept that things are awful and still have a sense of humor about it.” - Daniel Tosh
You need a sense of humor about things.
There’s the quote,
Laugh to keep from crying
it’s not funny, it’s absurd.
