• Peter G@lemmy.world
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    Let’s just agree that these states are also the places where the hypocrisy is the strongest.

    Just look at the facts: These are the places where you have to preserve the life of a fetus just because you can hear a heartbeat (heart is just a muscle sack that acts as a pump, nothing else), but you can freely shoot your neighbor, a fully gestated human, who has stumbled onto your yard.

    You have to remind parents not to have drunken sex with their children, but you cannot let LGBTQ people have a book store or a unisex bathroom.

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      Just look at the facts: These are the places where you have to preserve the life of a fetus just because you can hear a heartbeat

      Not even.

      Women have been forced to carry dead fetuses, which will kill them from sepsis as it starts to decompose.

      And the people who voted for it will deny it ever happening, until something similar happens to someone they know. Then they’ll cry on the street corners about how unfair it is.

      Remember: Scientific studies have shown that many conservatives are cold hearted and stupid, by demonstrating a clear correlation between conservative thinking/behaviour and lower than average cognitive ability and empathy. And literally every single one of them think they are a super genius and they think most people secretly share their political views.

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        btw isn’t conservatism supposed to be about “everything is perfect as it is right now, don’t make any changes”?

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          They say that, but they are liars. Liberals who typically want to conserve the standing social and economic order are the real conservatives.

          What the conservatives actually are is reactionaries.

          For the record, I’m not saying that because I’m a liberal, which I’m not. I don’t want to conserve the social or economic orders.

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        can you please not just be homophobic as like some epic own of the conservatives. Even if its supposed to be an ironic thing because conservatives would hate to be called gay, it just reads as normal homophobia.

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          Because it is normal homophobia. Blaming homophobia and abuse on gays is just a rehash of the same old bigotry, no matter stated intentions.

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      Brain is just a nerve bag that makes decisions.

      I’m strictly pro foetus killing, in case that makes it seem otherwise. Just think that’s a poor rhetorical device.

      Boobs are just fat bags that milky milky. But they’ve got soul, baby.

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        Brain is just a nerve bag that makes decisions.

        While this statement is true, what is also true is that the brain is the only organ we’re unable to fully understand, replace (as in through organ donation), and it’s what makes us sentient. This is why Row v. Wade had a specific fetal age up until which abortion is permitted. That age coincided with the age at which the brain is developed and the fetus becomes a child which could be delivered. Most of the red-state laws are restricting abortion after the heartbeat can be detected.

        All I am saying is that it makes perfect sense, from the biological point of view, why the heart is one of the first major organs to develop: it’s main job is to deliver nutrient-rich blood to all other organs so that they can develop as well. But despite that, its not the heart that makes us human, it’s the brain.

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          I was raised around those good old traditional values like “do what you’re told” and “a woman’s value is caring for a family.” Once I started thinking for myself and asking questions, I still struggled with all the “but they’re killing living babies!” idea. Then one day it occurred to me - we don’t determine death by when the heart stops, why would we decide it starts just because we hear a beat? Brain death determines death, wouldn’t an appropriate level of brain activity determine life? I let go of a lot of baggage that day.

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            There is never a good reason to say ‘subhuman filth’. All of our problems are human problems.

            Including your apparent meth abuse.

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              Methyl is CH3 groups - I did a graduate degree in biochem and feel proud of my achievement tyvm.

              Edit- ironically I chose not to be ethylman (without the first m) because I thought it made me sound like a proud alcoholic 🤣

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                So if you’re educated, consider giving the book “Becoming Evil” a problem.

                All of our problems are human problems, and talking about other human beings - no matter what they do - as “Subhuman” is a problem in and off itself.

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      but you can freely shoot your neighbor, a fully gestated human, who has stumbled onto your yard.

      link to the story?

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    Back when this was posted on Reddit someone who worked in CPS chimed in. The short of it was: Yes , men raping their under age daughters is frighteningly common in some states and a common form of victimization of the girls that CPS handles.

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        Where are we considering “the Midwest” here? I ask because I grew up in northern Illinois, which is a much different Midwest from Kansas or Missouri.

        EDIT: I originally typed Kentucky when my brain wanted to type Kansas

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          Born and raised Michigander checking in. There’s a LOT of cultural variation in the Midwest that people gloss over. You can find extremely liberal population centers all around the region. Chicago, Detroit, Ann Arbor, Madison, Lansing, Milwaukee, etc

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          Minnesotan here. No incest signs. Lots of drunk driving signs. And, the occasional meth signs down in the SW of the state.

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          Kentucky and East of the Mississippi usually isn’t considered Midwest anyway

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        nebraska here and i’ve never seen an incest awareness sign. LOADS of pro life bullshit tho

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          Same in Oregon. Never seen a “don’t rape your children” bilboard or “don’t shake a baby” bilboard. I do however see a lot of bilboards telling me how a 14 day conceived baby (fetus) has eyes, a beating heart, nails, and maybe a job with current labor laws being pushed. It’s wild how you can outright lie about that shit on a bilboard.

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        I technically live in southern Illinois near St Louis and I’ve not seen incest sounds only intent ass anti abortion signs. None of which mention when a fetus becomes self aware.

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            I actually haven’t but I only leave the city after work. The most I’ve seen is churches blaming the pandemic and the climate on lack of faith. I try hard not to look at billboards die to how frustrating they can be.

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      About 30% of rape cases against children occur in the close family, so probably yes.(Numbers are from Germany).

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      Growing up in Wisconsin, drunk driving was a serious issue. Especially on New Years and the Fourth of July. The joke was that every little town throughout Wisconsin always had a church and a bar. There were so many alcoholics that would spend every day at those bars. It’s a tradition that probably goes back to the idea of public houses and having bars be a central location where your community gathers. Many people take the drinking part of that too far though and so the anti-drunk driving PSAs were necessary.

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      Nah the daughter wanted it, he knows because he was drunk at the time.

      Reminds me of the bible story about the daughter’s that got their father drunk and had sex with him. I’m totally sure that’s what happened and it wasn’t the father raping his daughters then blaming them for it.

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        I love how the initial response is “I think he actually raped his daughters” instead of “the entire thing is literally just made up to control people like the rest of the bible.”

        Relax, Lot never even existed.

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          I think the point is that even in a story they made up they create a fantasy where it’s the daughters fault for raping the father, not the other way around which it would obviously be.

          Relax with telling people to relax, they were pretty calm in their comment.

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    And naturally for THIS billboard, they use a person of color as a model.

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    This just raises more questions. Can the person this ad is aimed at even read? Is this ad seriously suggesting to rape his date as an alternative to raping his daughter?

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    I remember one time driving through Oklahoma or Missouri in 04. 3 billboards in a row… “Stop” 2nd “Take a BREAK” 3rd, “Don’t ever shake a baby”

    Why you need one let alone 3 is a disappointing reflection of reality.

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      Unrelated but you just reminded me of that excellent movie Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, which I must now go rewatch

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        I totally forgot about this movie until you mentioned it, but it is incredible. Thank you for reminding me of this Frances Mcdormand masterpiece

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      Me, my papa was shaken baby, my papas papa was a shake baby, and my granpappy papa was a shaken baby, we all terned out altright. It’s called parenting!1!1!

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    It legit took me more than 5 seconds to realise what it’s supposed to mean. Fckin hell how is this even real?